
The Spring Legion Podcast
Welcome to a year-round discussion on the wild turkey and those who hunt them. Hosted by Hunter Farrior, founder of Spring Legion and author of Ballad of a Turkey Hunter, the weekly podcast is geared for all outdoor communities and dives deeper than the usual tactics and calling tips. Holding true to the brand, topics are built upon respecting the heritage and challenges of hunting, with a never-ending appreciation for all that the spring season provides. Enjoy insight from special guests like Dave Owens of Pinhoti Project, Cuz Strickland of Mossy Oak, our friends at NWTF and Muscadine Bloodline, and so many more widely known for their impact in the turkey hunting community, as well as the deer, duck, and waterfowl realm, who exhibit the obsession of which only a real turkey hunter may truly understand. Thanks for listening.
The Spring Legion Podcast
What's in Our Turkey Vest? A Detailed Breakdown of Calls, Gear, and Other Hunting Essentials
The excitement of turkey season is finally here, causing anticipation and nervous energy as the hosts prepare for their favorite time of year.
• Spring Legion updates on new apparel including Full Foliage patterns available for pre-order Tuesday 3/11/25
• Original Bottomland duffel bags finally arriving after three years of development
• Comparison of mouth call preferences (KB Hen batwing vs Ghost Cut)
• Essential gear carried in turkey vests including Thermacells, DEET, permethrin treatment
• Discussion of wing bone calls and their effectiveness
• Important utility items like limb snips, electrical tape, and extra socks
• Detailed breakdown of gun and ammo preferences, including TSS shells
• Weather preparation considerations including multiple clothing layers
• The importance of having backup plans and extra supplies in your vehicle
We'll hopefully be out in the woods getting our game plan together when you hear from us next. Thanks for listening to the Spring Legion podcast - your shares, reviews and engagement mean the world to us.
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Speaker 1:My name is hunter farrier and we're the hosts of the spring bridge podcast and we appreciate y'all listening all the way up until now. So if you're listening to this, you might be headed to the woods to at least do some listening. There's places around here that you could be going to hunt a turkey a little south of us, but it's a good time of year to be a turkey hunter and we just wrapped up things in West Point, mississippi, with our buddies at Mossy Oak, had a grand old time at the third annual Turkey Tailgate and Call Makers Showcase I think that's the correct verbiage there. Like we said, it's all I was there for. It was a good time, yep, and it was a very good time. Bunch of familiar faces, bunch of a lot of cool stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's always just cool to go see the cool, you know weird little things. You know that you don't see at the big shows all the time. You know you kind of get to see these old guys that what do you call them? Old pros, kind of deal and all that stuff, and get to chit-chat with them. A lot of tinkering going on in there, yeah, yeah, yeah, and kind of a craftsman, maybe I guess you'd call them. It's kind of all the interesting booths at normal expos condensed into the ones that are like A good at it, yeah, b, you can kind of look at them and trust that they know what the heck they're doing. Mm-hmm, you know, sat across from Red Beard himself and you just you know he knows what he's doing Absolutely.
Speaker 1:The product just kind of speaks for itself. You can look at him and tell, like that guy probably killed a lot of turkeys before Uh-huh. And I think there's several other folks there that are like that and I've got a lot of their crawls and I didn't buy them there, I bought them in the past. But nonetheless, good to shake hands with a lot of folks who enjoy turkey hunting and I did see a turkey make its way through there. So it was Mississippi's Youth Weekend and I'd seen folks were walking in with camouflage before and I think it wasn't two minutes before that. I was like somebody's going to walk in here with a turkey one day, yeah, so I'm already looking forward to the fourth annual next year.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I think Full Foliage will be coming out on Mossy Oak's website the 10th, the day of this podcast airing I think it'll be 5 pm. I think is what Mossy Oak said that their line of full foliage will be going live on their website online nationwide. So if you weren't there, if you weren't at Nashville, you're able to go get the new full foliage, whole get-up vest, strap vest, all that good stuff on Mossy Oak's website. I encourage you to do that. But speaking of which, we've got a couple things I've got to hit on real quick, just being the Spring Legion guy and and we got a lot of stuff going on right now, so I do feel obliged to uh to tell y'all about some of it as far as the?
Speaker 1:Uh, the gear and apparel. So I go speaking of full foliage, though, we we got some, oh yeah, so pretty pumped about that, but we do have some. It's going to be available for pre-order. I know folks are probably going to run to that. They're going to be on the website springleaguecom and this these are the vintage faded wash tees. This ain't, you know. We're not selling gear in it or anything, but the very, very popular vintage tees we always sell in original bottom lane and other patterns. We've got full foliage now, so we'll be going up for pre-order sometime that night, if not Tuesday mornings. So, depending on when you're listening to this, check it out at SupremeLegioncom, but check it out at springleaguecom, um, but before that, the? Uh, the full line of full foliage will be releasing on musky oaks website at 5 pm central today, monday.
Speaker 1:I do have a favor to ask just get the shirt if you're going to pre-order, yes, yes, that's a favor on my part, that's. That's going to help chase out a whole lot, anything we do pre-orders. So, and this will just be an explanation of it, if it's pre-ordered obviously I don't have it in hand, it's getting made right now yeah, to put it in a bag or box and send to you. So if you get the shirt and a hat, I have to hold on to that hat in a separate spot and try not to lose it, or whatever it may be. Um, until I get your shirt to fill that order, you're not gonna get that hat before the opener, if the right, if the tea doesn't ship before the opener. That's the main thing, because I don't want to make y'all wait for the rest of your order. Um, so if you want to get, you know, a full, get up a camouflage or whatever it may be a hat or something like that, make two separate orders if you can. It will. You'll be'll be glad you did and so will we.
Speaker 1:But yeah, that's just a heads up and that goes, because when we do preorders, it's not to see how many we should order. It's not like we're getting an estimate, this is just a. I know this is going to probably run out as fast as we're able to supply them kind of deal. It's a little more insurance kind of thing. Just open it up, yeah, so go ahead and call it and then you'll have a day or two. We don't advertise it as much and it's not on all the social media places and stuff. So if you're listening to this, you're kind of getting an exclusive heads up because we're not going to necessarily just blow it out of the water. Might post one story about stuff like that. But yeah, go ahead and grab that. We've got a few other things.
Speaker 1:Another thing is we're probably doing away with the bundles. We've been talking about the bundles. That's been our only update for the past two or three episodes. We're getting low on some pants and jackets and all that good stuff, some of the gators it's about to get a little hairy with the bundling deal. So you'll be able to get a bundle in some sizes and not in some sizes. Probably, as of this episode I don't foresee. You know, certain size large is making it the next few days.
Speaker 1:We're running out of stuff. Did not get enough, I thought. Thought I would. I got more than the last year, but we're growing. I don't, you know, I'm trying to scale it as best I can, but, um, but yeah, we're running our stuff. The bundling deal is probably a no-go from here on out. Uh, you'll just have to buy them separately. And we still have some deals and stuff going on with free shipping and whatnot.
Speaker 1:But I do want to also bounce off that and say, hey, we are running out of some stuff. Yeah, so if you are thinking about it, go ahead and get it. Yeah, this is, this is. I'd hate for you to miss out on it all at the same time. Yeah, yeah, that ain't no marketing. Yeah, that's not a marketing tactic. Be real with you. Yeah, but yep, that.
Speaker 1:And you probably didn't watch the YouTube video on Sunday because I didn't put one out, because we were up in West Point and I do think we're going to be able to do some more midweek. Instead of the podcast being on Monday, the YouTube being on Sunday, and now turkey's rolling around one of those gonna have to go or change or something we're gonna move the the youtube to a sporadic date. So I encourage you to subscribe or follow some form or fashion of our social media stuff to know when that is. Um, because I ain't gonna tell you a day because I don't know, and I'm gonna shoot you straight, but I'll get one out this week and and it's going to be a decent one. I think I know the one it is. It's just taking a little while to piece everything together. It was on two different cameras, okay, but yeah, got that.
Speaker 1:And then, as far as stuff that's coming up that y'all can be expecting to release during, or at least you know, sometime in March, a full foliage and that a full foliage, and and that's the finite number, now, if the pre-orders eat them all up, they're gone, they're, you know. They're just going to say so. We're going to take them off the website and ship them whenever we get them and that's it. Um, I don't know when we'll be able to get more um, but another thing we're getting is leather mouth call leather mouth call pouches. Yeah. So, um, kind of got those in the works. Those will probably be up on the website this week. I know half that batch is already shipped, headed to us. I'll probably get them the day of this podcast and upload them pretty shortly.
Speaker 1:Pretty slick little pouches. Y'all know what they are. I don't have to describe much more than that. But check those out. They look good. Got one in original bottom land trim and one in just a straight-up leather, solid leather. I like that one. And just a straight up leather, solid leather, and I like that one the best. I'm not gonna lie, as much as I like bottom land, it looks pretty, pretty classic, just the regular leather and um, drum roll, please.
Speaker 1:We got the daggum duffel bags in reed really the duffel bags we've been trying to get for three years. Jeez, finally got someone to make them how we wanted them, in original bottom land. And uh, it's a guy, it's a, it's a just a dump bag. You just dump everything in there. It's just a pretty compact little um duffel bag. One opening no, no, fence pockets, bells, whistles, I think. It is lined kind of like a waterproofish liner on the inside. These are for real. I don't. I can't attest to the zipper and stuff. I think it does. It especially has a pretty waterproof zipper on it, but I don't know yet, I'm not gonna tell you I do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, but I use the crap out of mine. Y'all probably see it in a couple videos. Yeah, all kinds of videos, social media stuff. Yes, hunters, quote, unquote. Bag of tricks. Yes, I keep all kinds of crap in there. Yeah, when you see it come out of the back seat, you know we're having a rough day. Yeah, I'm thinking of, like, what is it? Do we have a like an onyx surface pot call? I found one time, you know, just off the wall, stuff that I'm thinking of. I'm like I know I got that coyote yipper somewhere. We'll give that a go. Um, that's where I keep all that kind of stuff and that's actually going to um, yeah, I think that's all we got to talk about spring leading wise. But that's going to segue into what today's episode is going to be about, and that is what we're getting ready to do is turkey hunt and what we're getting ready for the hunting of the wild turkey. Yeah, so what we, what we got to find, what we got to get, what we take with us, yeah, kind of thing, what comes with us that we can think of right now we don't have our vest out. I don't break that out until the day before, two days before. Usually I'll break it out on the 13th.
Speaker 1:Do all my mending and stuff, and I'm a ritual kind of guy when it comes to this sacred week. This is my week to do my thing. I try to prepare in advance as much as I can. Usually I'm not prepared, but there's several things that I do this week. But other than the things that we do is the things that we take hunting with us. So it's not necessarily a gear drop or a vest dump or whatever you want to call it, like a video would be.
Speaker 1:But yeah, we sat down here about 10 minutes ago and wrote a bunch of things down on a notebook paper and this is what we got in tow. So do you want to start something or do you want me to start something with everything from guns to vests or calls to other things? We got in that bag-a-trick kind of deal. Yeah, I mean, I just pretty much wrote down some stuff like what I carry into the woods with me 99% of the time, okay, and then I kind of threw what I keep in the truck through the season. Right, mike could use from here to there. Whatever it may be, I don't know how you want to go about it. I ain't got no plan. You want to just go through what we normally carry in the woods? What's in our vest? Yeah, I'll go first.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so, call-wise, I do use a mouth call every now and then and majority of that time is a kb hen from hounds tooth. It's a bat wing, it sounds best and I have found a lot of folks use that that. I've met turkey hunting and a lot of my friends use it. And um box call I got is. It's really small and it's really screechy sounding. It's unmarked. Yeah, I, I don't know if I still have that one. I'm not gonna lie. One of them I lost and I found a duplicate of it. Okay, and it might have a name to it. I just don't remember what the name is, but um. But yeah, it's very small and it's very shrillish and if I break it out I'm trying to reach a long way, so to speak. It's not like a foolproof kind of deal where I'm, you know, softy, open and stuff in a harbor, woods or whatever I'm. I'm wailing on it more times than not um and then um and the cat's out of the bag.
Speaker 1:The pot call I use is cody and uh, it reminds me of turkey hunting. My, my dad's always used one and I'm very loyal to that particular call. It's something that I've used for a long time. People ask me all the time. What is that? It's a call that I've always had, so it's not necessarily. The call itself is one thing, but having the same exact call for a very, very long time, it's like.
Speaker 1:I mean, some folks can I'm sure Jimmy Hendricks can play the guitar with his eyes closed I can use that call with my eyes closed and I know exactly when something's about to squeak or that's not the. That doesn't feel right. I'm not going to keep going. You know, I don't have to play with it in the woods or find a sweet spot. I can about throw a dart and hit it. I know exactly where it's at. If I can play left-handed, I know where that sweet spot's going to be. I've just fiddled with it for so many years.
Speaker 1:Right, I use the Cody Striker with it and I keep two Strikers. One of them is not, one of them is a houndstooth. It's kind of a red. I don't know if he does it maybe. And uh, don't get me lying, I talked a lot the other day about it. Right, the strike, it's the red one with the with the whitish handle. Yeah, light colored, light colored colored top. Um, I might have one on the desk. Nope, that's a different one, um, but, yep, we got that.
Speaker 1:And then, uh, our buddy, clay townsend, over in georgia, my, uh, my wife peyton's godfather knows him pretty well, I think so somewhere I know I Clay Townsend was from building trumpets and then, somehow or another there's a family friend connection to him being in Georgia those few years and finally got in touch with him at the NWTF convention this year and, uh, chase and Peyton ran over there and bought a couple calls from him yep, and I'm gonna try that this year, because Chase always kills a lot with that wing bone and I was like, well, I guess I'll get something cool like that too and I like it. I don't really know what I'm doing with it yet, but I plan on figuring that out. Yeah, you got a wooden one, didn't you? Yeah, yeah, was it African blackwood or something? Probably that's what I remember. You got a black one, didn't you? I came, I looked at it earlier today, duro or something like that. It's like a, it's like an acrylic looking stuff. Yeah, some form of plastic or dents, I don't. I don't really know what Unbreakable it seems. Yeah, more unbreakable, more durable, maybe Right it's. I don't remember what it was called, but I ended up going with that just because I don liked how it sounded better, you know kind of thing which I ran a bunch of them that day and it was hard to pick one really and honestly I just kind of finally landed on that one.
Speaker 1:Yep, I do bring a crow call and I do bring an owl call because I'm a rookie. I suck at turkey hunting. I can't do an owl with my mouth. I've never turkey hunted before, so I don't know how to do that hunting. I can't do an owl with my mouth. I've never turkey hunted before, so I don't know how to do that. No, I'm kidding.
Speaker 1:There is a uh, which I don't even know if jason read it, but, and then he gives me more and there's a. There's a good paragraph or two about the classifications of owl hooters that I dive into and just something I've. It is pretty true. It is um and I'm in the, I'm in the very. There's a very finite group of members that are in the class which can call with their mouth. They just can't do it with a straight face and I'm one of them.
Speaker 1:I can do an owl call. I just can't do it without kind of laughing in the middle of it because I feel like an idiot doing it. It works. I've done it enough to know that there should be confidence there. But what if a stray cat hears me howling at the daggum moon out here and I like, and they don't know that turkeys gobbled owls, I mean I just can't get, I can't get that out of my head, even if I'm by myself. I can't help it crack up a little bit. But if, uh, if turkeys would uh gobble a whispered hysteria, they would likely choke.
Speaker 1:Anytime I try to do alcohol, so I do carry an alcohol with me. I usually keep that in kind of the water bottle pocket of my vest because it is kind of annoying to clank around and I don't always carry it. I usually just rely on owls, period. If they're there, they usually hoot, they don't just all decide not to one day and if they do, probably not going, not gonna be good chance of hearing turkey anyway. Right, but I do do that and, um, I'll bring it. If I, if I really have no idea what I'm getting into, like I'm about to walk a mile before I even stop to listen and I'm just gonna be really just throwing darts at that point at the wall and just hoping I'll bring one with me and and I'll use it all the way up to freaking noon, it don't matter.
Speaker 1:Um, as far as other calls, I don't really. I keep the like my mouth call. Pouch has the same call in it, so I I've, I might try a ghost cut. That your taste does, a ghost cut. I used to use a ghost cut for folks who know me know that I, I did. Um, I used a piggyback style frame from Primo's the True Doubles for so long, right, all Malacost feel weird in my mouth Because of that. Because of that. It's odd, but I figured out that a bat wing is probably my best bet. So they're all KBS, I mean, I think they got it's called the Knox. Now it's a purple and black back wing. I do like it and I've got that in there. And then, um, yep, I do, and I will bring every now and then an aluminum or ceramic.
Speaker 1:This ceramic pot call we got right here on our desk. Um, I think that's new for rounds too, that I'm bringing this year. Chase, I know, likes it. Oh yeah, that one might go. I've been thinking you were going to take it before now, right, because I know you wanted it. But, um, but it's been sitting here for two weeks since we got back in the nftf convention.
Speaker 1:I will say I grabbed uh, I don't know which one it is, it's the one with the turkey spur on it. Oh, yeah, the, yeah, the glass one. He's got the 1.75, something like this. Numbers I remember it being numbers. I can't, I'm not looking at it. So, yeah, um, yeah, 1.75. Something like that, some numbers, I remember it being numbers. I can't, I'm not looking at it. So, yeah, yeah, 1.75, something like that. I've been playing with it at home and it might, you might, get to keep that one for a little longer.
Speaker 1:I like having a non-glass surface. Slate calls like a slate surface sounds about as much like a hand as anything. Yeah, I just am comfortable with the coat of glass call I've always had and? Um, so if I, if I needed something else, I usually bring a, an aluminum or something like that. That is going to be pretty different, so to speak, or a different striker or something like that. That's going to really differentiate it a little bit.
Speaker 1:Um, that, I got some 80 grit sand paper is what I use on it just to kind of some some of the debris and stuff off of it. I don't go to town on it. I am very, very careful with it. Um, what I mean? You got the wing bone obviously big on that, yeah, um, it was pretty much dropping the vest last year though. Yeah, I kind of had to take a few and sit back at the house last year. But uh, mainly just run the wing bone, the guarantees I won't carry with me wing bone and the mouth call pouch is pretty much going to be with me every hunt, right?
Speaker 1:Um, I run ghost cuts. I've got normally two or three in there which, um, houndstooth ghost cuts, the, the gray one, the gray one, that's a go-to for me. And then I think I have some like random guys, other one in there that I think it's just a half, or yeah, I mean you pick up the right one. Yeah, I know which one it is. You know they got a different color latex on them or something, but, um, you know it's more of a backup call kind of deal. You know I bounce back and forth with them and if I do pull one out in the dark, I know both of them will sound good enough, the same, you know, one's just a little more higher pitch, one's a little more quiet, you know kind of deal.
Speaker 1:I'm not one that's gonna sit there and, you know, swap a mouth call while you know, because the turkey went from 80 yards to 20 yards or whatever, yes, and a bunch of people do that I'm. I normally won't, unless one I'm breaking mine out as close, you're right. Well, see, I mean I I run that mouth call, yeah, the whole time, exactly, which I did have a little small slate. I got sixth grade. Yeah, who, who was that? Uh, I don't even know the guy's name chattahoochee maybe, I think is the name of his company but I talked to him a couple years back and he, he never made quote, unquote, unquote, made that call Really. I said, man, I've been, you know, looking for another kind of backup one for this, and he said I've never made one that size and had that name to it or whatever it ended up being. I don't even remember what it was actually called Um, but he you know, the guy that I thought made it supposedly didn't make it, so it doesn't have anything on the back.
Speaker 1:I like that about their guns everybody's there's. I mean, by no means am I like a gear junkie or anything right, but I have had to evolve a little bit in the past few years because we hunt a whole lot more and stuff. But my tried and trues will always be my tried and true right and I'm pretty up front with anybody when it comes to, you know, partnerships and stuff. I, my tried and trues will always be my tried and true right and I'm pretty up front with anybody when it comes to you know, partnerships and stuff. I'm like I, I kind of got what I got, you know, and and, and they've changed my mind on some of the things you know. I'm like, okay, you know what you're doing too, don't you? Yeah, you know right and and, but but a lot of it is is superstition. Really, some stuff sounds better, but I'm like I just this is what I've always done and I don't, you know, I might not kill a turkey because of it one day. But at the same time, you know, I look forward to breaking stuff out and then doing this and meeting again, like we meet again kind of stuff, with a lot of things that I do keep.
Speaker 1:And I do keep like stuff like an old short brim hat from paul paul in my vest at all times, and I keep all kinds of just you know random rocks. I couldn't tell you where half these freaking rocks come from. I don't know how me and Hunter end up with I got by May. Yeah, our vest weighed what? 50 pounds. Just from rocks, yep, from high school rock. Pick it up Big on them. Yeah, I don't know where that always picked up rocks I'm a big fan of. I have one in my. No, these are different pants I have. I picked one up at the deck on west point yesterday, like you're gonna remember, this piece of probably I'm washing just like wrecking havoc right now on my daughter's school clothes. But it was a cool rock, it was very flat.
Speaker 1:Um, I'm a child, I know, but um, but yeah, aside from calls and stuff, in my vest I carry a DEET and a Thermacell. I used to be anti-Thermacell because I kept losing them and kept wasting money on them. I felt like but I'm big on the DEET, but pretty sure that caused cancer. So I try to get away from that and I'm talking 100% DEET, burn through your gun, stock kind of stuff. And I do spray a little on the face mask and on the collar and on the back of my hat before every season and this is pretty good and like, if I get a thick of it, I'm you got, I'll do it, I'll put it on. It's gonna burn like crazy and you're gonna feel like you're suffocating, but there's not gonna be a mosquito in that county when you break it out.
Speaker 1:Um, yeah, I'm, I'm a. I'm not a fan of taste, is not like the. I hate it burns a little bit and it also it makes me sick. Yeah, it'll make you lightheaded. Yeah, I just man, I and I think it's just from like me putting it directly in my, on my face mask where my nose breathes one day. But that smells like turkey hunting to me. No, it. I think it's like sweat and dirt and deep. When you put all them things together and it hangs at your collar like a face mask, it smells like I just walked a mile and I need to puke. That's half. The reason I probably put it on is to smell like turkey hunting. That one good time After the opening day, I'm all right, but I got to smell it one time. It smells like turkey hunting, especially when you're listening to red birds and stuff you know at the hood of your truck and listening to like the pops of your engine, a warm engine, kind of you know stuff you only hear this time of year together in unison is just turkey hunting to me. But I do.
Speaker 1:I perm ether in my clothes. I don't know if you do or not. I never have, but I'm going to this year. Yes, you need to. Yeah, I've just always intended to lose the bottle somebody gives me for Christmas by the time springtime rolls around. I've got plenty, but I do that about the week. I'll do that probably Tuesday this week, getting ready for Saturday to hunt and I cut everything down from my vest to my boots, to all my leafy jackets, my pants, hat, everything.
Speaker 1:How often do you reapply? If I'd say After a rain or something, if I remember, but even then, okay, if I ever start noticing ticks on me, yeah, I'm reapplying, obviously. Or if I change like Jack, it ain't like you spray it on you like bug spray, you hang your clothes up. I'm just saying for the listeners say you hang your clothes up and spray them down and let it dry and then you just you're good for a while. Yeah, um, and it works, and especially like our gators, I I code them pretty good and I might reapply to them once a week maybe, just to be sure, because I mean it takes gonna have to kind of get up that way.
Speaker 1:You know stuff that touches the ground and you know I'm I'll be honest with you, last year, much as I hunted, I had, I think I pulled, got two ticks off of my pants, really period. Well they're, and I didn't get a single one bite me. Yeah, that that was just very odd for me. They ain't tick proof, but I think it is hard for, I mean, gators, a is keeps if you're just standing in tall grass that has ticks in it and whatever they're called seed ticks or however you say it, but it's hard for them to get up, get down, get back in and find skin without falling off, as far as I know. No, I just, I remember noting that last year I'm like I, I'm not, that's half the reason I'm working. Yeah, no, I agree.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which it was just very odd for me to not pull a few ticks off on me through the end depends on where you're at, I think, and I, yeah, I think that was a lot of it. Yeah, I remember certain places I've been in the past where, right, you almost look a shade darker because there's so many on you. No, you almost have to have and and if and I was, I think I was with somebody who had permethen and everything. That's like I'm a believer in the permethen now, because I didn't have it on me and I was pulling them off in july I felt like and lyme disease ain't no joke, so neither is rocky mountain spotted fever. Jace has had that before. Uh-huh took me out. I don't have lyme disease. By the way, that kind of sounded like I did when I said that and yeah, you said no, I mean, I know folks who do and it's not cool from what I can tell, but I've got that.
Speaker 1:I do keep a pair of snips in my vest. Obviously I do cut twigs down pretty. Isn't there a study or something that shows that they can see that? I don't know if it's a study. Is it Illumination in the Flatwoods? Whoever the Hutto wrote, I've got the book somewhere. The dude who lived with turkeys for half his life, yeah, I want to say somewhere in there he mentioned that they could tell the difference in a broken branch, in a smooth cut branch? I don't know, I barely remember that. Don't quote me on that. But um, but I would much rather break it and point the leaves towards them, just so they don't see the under. You know, you can kind of you can make it look real man-made, so to speak, if you get to go into town. Real good on it. But but yeah, I don't, I don't think too hard on it for goblin turkeys coming in. If anything, I'll try to tilt the angle of the cut towards me, yeah, and let it roll away. I ain't what I.
Speaker 1:What I use mine for more is slipping through briar thickets. Yeah, I walk with mine and clip, clip, clip and save me from making noise and hanging up stuff on my clothes. And I got to grab them quick, like that. I do that and I keep a little thing of Germ-X and it's called Tech-New. Oh yeah, in my vest, both of them.
Speaker 1:That is for poison ivy stuff, the technew stuff you can get at walgreens, walmart, cvs, all that stuff and it they make one removes the oils off your hands. You gotta get pretty quick with it. If you sure enough grab, grab it. You know you grabbed it. You put that on there, no kind of de-oil your hands, and then they got some other stuff. For once you get it. But I keep the stuff that gets the oil off, and I'm also thinking germ mix has got a, mostly alcohol, which is very dry, dries you out. So I just have time, I just put that on my hands and hope for the best, and I do think it. It helps with the, the poison.
Speaker 1:I'm bad allergic, right? Yeah, you are, I'm not. Yeah, I'm bad allergic. But I will say this if I do hunt and I'm close to the house not necessarily traveling but doll and dish soap, that is the best. Yeah, but I wash my whole body with doll and dish soap if I go hunting or if I'm out hanging tree stands or whatever. And it's not only for that, and this is not proven and don't take my word for it. And this is not proven and don't take my word for it, but I have not seen red bugs on me near about I mean at all the days that when I come home I wash down with Dawn. I think it takes the red bugs off, it might. I mean there is something. Remember they did the commercial with the duck with the oil, something like that. Yeah, it's supposed to. I'm not saying a degreaser in it, but I think the brand Dawn has something in it that does get oil off. It is the degreaser yeah, from being a mechanic yeah, he's a mechanic. It gets all oils and grease and stuff like that. It is superior to St Iver or whatever the other one is. But, yep, I do that.
Speaker 1:And then, water wise, I got I do do the water bladder two liter water bladder cut a hole in my vest and stuck the little tube up. Uh, I'd rather that than a sloshing water bottle any day and I do. Sometimes. We'll keep a water bottle in my, in my vest, if I know, if I don't have time to refill that thing or whatever. But if I drink it, I drink all of it. I don't like it sloshing, so I'll load it down with four water bottles before I drink one big water bottle and have it just sloshing around. That's a pet peeve, but I do the Bino Harness of marsupials They've got a bottom-laying one now we're awaiting some to arrive to use this year.
Speaker 1:Big fan of marsupial stuff, by the way, and very small binoculars. I use vortex vanquish I think I had to look that up, but I think it's vanquished. They're 10 by 26. They just a little, just enough to tell what that is and that's it. Um, nothing too bulky.
Speaker 1:Uh, I keep pair cheap sunglasses. Yeah, you see me wearing sunglasses a lot. I uh, I don't know why I just it makes me less tired. I'm not a fan of polarized sunglasses, though really do not like polarized. Just driving anything can't see my phone, can't see screens, can't see the gas pump, it just I don't like polarized stuff. I'm like I just need something not to knock the sun out of my eyes. And it does make me less tired if I. If I don't have sunglasses and I'm hunting all day, I will be just from straining extra.
Speaker 1:I guess, I don't know, it might be all mental, but um, yep, I keep two pair of boots with me. I got a peat boot dryer. That's a pretty big plus to keep your truck. They make a portable one that plugs in a cigarette lighter or something like a hat and you just throw it in your boots and it's got to be overnight for them. But I used to have a big old one I kept in there. Oh, you used to have one that took up the whole back seat and it was like drooling, driving things out in a heartbeat. Now I just keep two pair of boots and then if I have to use the little portable one, I will. I usually take frog dogs with me, even, especially if it might rain. I'm throwing the far off dogs. I always have been, just because Dad is Right.
Speaker 1:Superior rain jacket, by God, if you walk through some briars, you don't. Oh gosh. Yeah, it becomes a leafy jacket real quick, but I would usually put that under my leafy jacket and throw it over there, but now got a camouflage. So I'm looking forward to that this year. And, um, I do keep a pill bottle with advils or taking all that stuff in there, because god knows if I come across them wrong. Dandelion is game over for about an hour. It and, and we have.
Speaker 1:I'm a pretty. I'm a loser. I mean, I'm allergic to everything. I feel like I need like an inhaler. Yeah, um, there's been times I literally thought you did need an actual inhaler, but it does. I'm not saying don't phase me, but I will walk through that in a heartbeat. Oh yeah, you're like that guy's got to be miserable. But I am a little miserable sometimes, but a lot of times I don't even think twice about it. But I've learned to keep the poison, ivy stuff, that and Dollar General energy packets, packets. I fly through them and then, um, the main thing, this, um, mfs.
Speaker 1:The only thing I think of left is a, an old, nasty turkey wing that I use probably at least once a day, turkey hunting. Um, cut it off right there at the last joint and it's just the, the front quarter. Front, yeah, part of the. I don't have a whole or half, or right. I'm trying to look at that one you get on the wall over there. Well, that was for a warbird mount, yeah, but like that's a whole wing, so like the longer feathers on the wing if you kill one, the front part, that's all you need. You need something to, yeah, pop around with some branches coming down. They just seem to fit in the back of a turkey vest a little more smoothly. That's heavy. Yeah, that's all I got. And then, yeah, what about you?
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Speaker 1:Stuff that I normally wear like make sure I have on before I leave is an undershirt Big, big time cotton undershirt guy. See, I'm a big traveling guy. I don't like cotton undershirts. Well, yeah, I do like the travel ends too, but it depends Like what I'm wearing. Yeah, yeah, that's, I think, technically traveling. I just I don't want like a flex shirt. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not like wearing an underarm under it or whatever. Right, that kind of material. It's got to be the cotton. I did do that one time Clothy cotton. Have you ever done that? I remember you telling me about that. Yeah, I was miserable. That was year. Yeah, I wore like rain on your side. Yes, this is, it sucks.
Speaker 1:You were like I put on like a if we use a cell in those flex tees, it was your cool to like yeah, we'll just wear that, maybe, you know, in late may. Yeah, but this was like opening week and I thought it would be like long sleeves. I'm gonna put this on just that my leafy jacket, nothing underneath it, and it missed it for like seven minutes just enough to like wet it. And then the wind went up to 13 miles an hour and I'm like I am about to die of hypothermia. Think of a wet under armor and wind blowing on you. I was like, by God, if it was summer though, I'd be perfect. But it wasn't. Yeah, don't do that anymore. Yeah, so I, yeah, so I do that. And then I'm.
Speaker 1:I'm running the north mountain gear leafy jackets. I've got two, yeah, and I've swapped back and forth a lot. I've got the like what you would probably wear bow hunting, yeah jacket. The one with the little. Uh, it's almost like it's a hoodie. More as of material on the inside, it's like that checkered print looking waffle lining waffle lining yeah, I made it looks like a waffle. That was a good, good thing to use to describe it. But it has a hood on it.
Speaker 1:This, this keeps you warm. It's a little insulated, but not too insulated, right. But I mean, I wear it a lot through the whole year. You know I'll deer hunt in it some too, and stuff, um, but the cooler days I like to wear it because I I'm just a very cold natured person. I freeze all the time. If it's below 68 I'm shivering, you know, it's just how I am, um, but yeah, I jump back and forth from it to the um, just the normal mesh one. Does yours have a hood or no? The mesh one does not. Okay, and I might get one without a hood this year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like both of mine have hoods, really okay, I, I like the hood because of gnats. Yeah, there's a main reason I like it just to get gnats off of you and I will spray it with vanilla. That is another big thing. I don't carry vanillas off, as I used to, anymore. I keep it in the truck. I literally try to avoid gnats now more than I do try to get rid of them, because I don't think turkeys like them either. I think they aggravate turkeys just as much. I do too, more than I think about it. I used to think they liked to eat them. I think they don't like them just as much.
Speaker 1:A pair of long johns is going to be in the pack. I'm going to probably wear a pair of long johns the first half of the year. Yeah, he's a big long john guy. Yeah, pair of sweatpants put on. If it's short enough cold, it'll stretch enough to. You're not going to be constricted, right, which is a good thing, and it's not baggy fabric. I mean, that's a big reason I'm getting them. And it's got the. Whatever crotch the. It's got a term to it. I forgot it. I should probably be the one to know, but it's I don't know. It's like not going to rip right there. You know, right, right, no matter how many layers you got, right, other than that, just, you know a pair of limb snips.
Speaker 1:I don't carry a water bladder on my back. Yeah, I don't carry it. What is that? A camelback, I guess. What do they call them? I got a soft water bottle it's a bicyclist thing off Amazon like $11. It's a lot smaller, but I put it down in my pant pocket my sixth two pockets, whatever those are on your thigh Cargo, cargo pocket, call it what it is.
Speaker 1:Chase, I couldn't think of it. I was struggling. You didn't want to sell people. You wore cargo pants, I know no, so I keep it in my cargo pocket. It's one of those non-crunchy water bottles, yeah, and it. When you drink out of it, it's got the camelback little nipple on it, or whatever you want to say. So it sucks all the air out of it. Oh yeah, suck all the air out of it and it doesn't slosh right, and that's the whole reason behind it it doesn't slosh.
Speaker 1:Um, and then the probably the thing I'm used the most is electrical tape. That is good, yes, and zip ties. I got a mini zip ties and I do have electrical tape. I have fixed a lot of things in the woods with some electrical tape, rig some stuff up, whatever it may be, which a lot of that's camera gear. You know, yeah, a lot of times a quick camera fix can be done with electrical tape. A quick gun sling fix can be done with that, though, too, you know stuff like that. Um, yeah, I've fixed a lot of things. If you get cut literally, yeah, you can wrap it up. You can also use it as a string kind of like, just roll it up and use it as a you know something to tie it together. I've done that before. Yeah, I've used electrical tape more than anything. I'll get mad at adjustable things, adjusting too much, and it'll tape the fire. That also be down. You know, like we ain't moving. No more Thermal sail, that's another thing. Let's see what else I got more.
Speaker 1:The rest of everything is pretty much just truck stuff, which is Frog togs, truck stuff which is frog dogs, stuff you keep in the truck, stuff I keep in the truck and use occasionally. Um, most of mine was right. Doesn't go into wood. I didn't clarify necessarily, but you didn't put yours in columns. Yeah, that's all of us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, extra socks yeah, I keep about a dozen socks in my truck all turkey season. Me too. Like I have a kroger bag that hangs on my back headrest and it is full of nothing but clean socks. I got a tupperware thing, yeah, yeah, but the kind of socks, my, I'm big on cotton socks. I don't like the if it's got like moisture wicking, sweat, active, flex something. I do not like them if they look like a baby sock and you can put it on and it stretches into a full-grown man sock. I like cotton socks that don't really stretch that much and are just kind of there. Yep, same here. I don't know why. I'm not a sock guru, but I've come to find if it's got 70% cotton, 30% polyester or whatever, I like those way better than the vice versa, right, um, same here, same here. So, uh, thermosel refills, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:Uh, I have a big set of binoculars I normally have floating around in the truck somewhere. Good idea for riding around, you know, looking for turkeys or just looking at stuff. You know, they kind of stay in the truck year round. Right, I carry a smaller pair of binoculars with me hunting I think they're Bushnells, I'm really not even positive. Same pair I've had for a couple years, let's see.
Speaker 1:Always have a good little bit of get-you-through food in your truck If you decide you can't get to town or gas station or whatever. You got a granola bar, yeah n got a granola bar, yeah, naps, granola bar, stuff like that. Water bottles, all those things. Uh, towels I keep at least two towels with me if I'm hitting the road because, whether if I get in the rainstorm, whether I'm sweaty, whether I need to take a shower and a loves, right, I got a towel or two that I can hang one up and or leave in the back of the truck, yeah, off, I mean, heck, I've slept under them before in the front seat of my truck.
Speaker 1:You know things like that, um, ziplocs, garbage bags, all that kind of stuff, because if I know it's going to rain, especially having a camera or you know, I'll put a zip that's. I normally keep a ziploc in one of my pockets. Yeah, I keep toilet paper in one cargo pocket and that water bladder in the other. Yeah, and my toilet paper's in a gallon-sized Ziploc so I can throw my camera and my phone in it. Okay, if I need to cross a creek or in a slate call. Yeah, you know, kind of just one of those catch-all. Yeah, it ain't a bad idea to have something of that nature.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, if we're traveling, you know you got to keep toe straps and toe straps, tools, stuff like that. Oh, yeah, you know, that's the minimal stuff I wrote down Air compressor and the first aid kit. That's just things I always make sure I have Right, and you get a lot more than I do. Yeah, kind of Like useful things that I tend to need a lot but never tend to have. Yeah, so gun-wise, I'm 870, either 20 or 12.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the claw string. What the claw? The claw is the name of the sling Sling. I said string. I was like what are you the claw, the claw sling? I'm a big, big, big fan of them. Is that Toy Story the claw? Yes, the little alien. That's all I heard. I just wanted to clarify. I was like what? Yes, that is Toy Story, sorry. Anyways, I have two little girls, I know. But yeah, big's, the rubber slings. You see a lot of it looks like the Dix and Best Exactly.
Speaker 1:Yep, big on them, apex, 9s, especially in the early season. So I got some with some 8s. I'm a big 3-inch shell guy. I don't really do the 3 1⁄2s. I get nervous that they're going to hang up or something. It's kind of one thing like that going when you're shooting that many pellets, even that much more, and I used to be big on like I want as much and as many as possible, but I have.
Speaker 1:I have kind of started toting that 20 gauge and I will say this I do if I've got a lot of different types of shells I used to. I would rather use my nine shot or ten shot. I I got a 10 shot now on some of them. I like the 9s. I've always shot them, but the 9s in the earlier season when there's less foliage and stuff. And then If I got sevens, I'd rather use them in the later season when there's some leaves and stuff that might have to kind of go through. I don't know if that matters or not. I don't either. I have common sense kind of theory there, confidence than common sense. Probably it makes you feel better about it.
Speaker 1:Y'all know I'm not good keeping up with shells, but, um, don't have one of the two with you. I got, I got something, yeah, and the truck at all times, yeah, go ahead. No, I'll say it might. It might be what determines whether I bring the 12 or the 20, yeah, but, uh, that and I, I got a barrel camera this year. Guys, y'all can get some videos. It's bigger than the tech I'm going. It really is. I don't know how long I'm gonna keep it on there. It'll probably break. I'll probably drop that just as much as I do the other cameras.
Speaker 1:I'm a big gopro guy, a big losing gopro guy too, yeah, anyways, yeah, I'm, I'm. I'm very thankful for that, because the videos we have tried to find, yeah, I don't know how many Y'all saw the last video, never mind, I'm just going to say that that ain't the only one, yeah, but we got some decent ones, yep, I'm going to be honest with you. I don't even know the statistics specifics of my shells at the moment. I've got to shoot a few this week. Yeah, chase, you gotta kinda figure, kinda gotta re-figure out some stuff.
Speaker 1:Um, running the old 870, I gotta get a new choke. Yeah, that's the thing I've been running an old jellyhead choke that's non-TSS approved. Uh, I didn't know that until Lance Mather stole me that. Yeah, because he had one almost blow up on him and, or you know, it started rolling it, which I'm sure tss has been around long enough now that folks know a little more than we did. But, right, didn't nobody advertise that part for a little while? I don't think nobody realized it for a couple years. Stuff started mushrooming out and you know, but, yeah, tss joke, if you're shooting tss and I'm a fan of tss, I think it's a good thing, it's in the, the hands of the user, just like a lot of things you can definitely use it to exploit the resource if you choose to do so.
Speaker 1:I don't right, I don't think that would be fun, I don't, I know it's. I could if I wanted to right. Um, folks would have no right at coming after me. I could pull that card if I did, but I don't want to right. And um, I don't have many opportunities to shoot one at 90 yards because I can't see past 30 most of the time. But, um, I've not shot them before and I'm still getting like, I still get up and kind of jog to them because I'm used to I mean I guess I'm in that generation barely, yeah, where you got to run to them a little bit. I still have it in me to, I don't waste no time getting there.
Speaker 1:But there's been same here as I'm talking matter three years ago maybe not shooting them at 50, yeah, and forgetting like I definitely can, ethically, you know, and and could it, just don't feel right. I just didn't think I could because I wasn't used to that even being possible and I was just like I don't even know where to aim that kind of deal. I mean, in fact, 45 is my kind of. You know, I'm not good at ranging, so I mean I'm sure I've shot something 48. Oh yeah, absolutely ranging. So, yeah, I mean I'm I'm sure I've shot something 48. Oh yeah, absolutely, just like no different.
Speaker 1:I shot something 40, thinking 45. I don't, I don't pull a trigger if I don't think I can kill it. I know that and I've not to say in a weird way, but I've killed enough to know where that limit is. I've missed enough to know where that limit is. You know what I mean? Yeah, um, but that's I mean I think it's it's way more efficient in the, in the killing, because I have had them.
Speaker 1:I've had only one get up and run off since you started shooting at my whole life. Oh, okay, uh, it was years ago, but I have had it happen and I and I would and I'm me and seals didn't gotten in arguments about it before yeah, it happened to him a couple times. I'm like Seals if you shoot a turkey in the head with a bullet of any kind, it's going to die and it's not going to be able to run off. Right, just tell me you missed. You know, you don't have to make up this story.
Speaker 1:And it happened to me one time. I mean I was halfway to it and the joker got up and ran off and I could not catch it. I slung two more and I don't think I had my gun at it. I had to stop and go back two steps and grab my gun. Then it was really far, yeah, and I was like, well, crap, shoot in the back. I tried that and then I mean either it was too far then or I just missed it completely, but that turkey haul got out of dodge and I saw it the next day. Yeah, um, same freaking turkey. Yeah, he had a little, not a missing feather, but a shorter feather halfway up his tail, fan unfazed, but um, but I?
Speaker 1:But before I started shooting tests and this was obviously years ago I started in 2017 when apex made it oh, yeah, you know, I bought it right, it was four. It was like even in a, and I might not shoot it every time. I was pretty. I didn't know much of a difference because I didn't pattern gun until last year. Yeah, my whole life, I just shot it at a turkey.
Speaker 1:If it killed it, it killed it, and then, if it didn't, I I just talked it up to user error, um, but, um, but, but several were. You know, you had to. You had to step on their neck for a second or something, you know some nature to you could get hands on them. But that don't happen, no more. You know, which is why I'm kind of a big advocate for it. Yeah, um, yeah, I've kind of. I've got, I've learned to. I can stay seated a little bit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 99.9, if I run out of time, if I run out of habit and it's out of I don't want to you know it to get dirty or messed up because it yeah, I did this the other day was on probably one of our last videos I let it there's like three or four, I think it was three gobblers maybe and I was like, well, I can bring chase or somebody's heels maybe out of here and I want to bump these other ones, and it wound up being like a really really pretty one and I let it get just messed up and I'm like, well, it better come out here. And y'all did not come out there, so somebody else got to probably take a crack at them on my behalf of really letting this really pretty long beard mess himself up. Pretty good. But yeah, obviously there's going to be a lot more stuff that I forgot to mention that we do bring, and there's going to be a lot of stuff that I probably mentioned that I forget to bring on opening day. But it wouldn't be the same without it, right, and we'll hopefully be getting this little game plan together, because we don't have one.
Speaker 1:If you all are wondering, yeah, I got off on a stare right when you said that started hearing a little bit the other day, but that was it. I have no plan right now and that's starting to worry me. Yeah, we're about to find it. Yeah, we'll figure something out and nothing else we'll, we'll, we'll be hunting turkeys. It might be. I don't think the weather's looking great, but I don't care. Um, it's almost. I mean it's, it's here, it's it. I'm pumped up about it me too. Um, all right, well, we timed that about perfect. Yeah, you got anything else you want to add? Last second um, look around the room. We don't have our vest in here. That would probably been beneficial and pretty smart to do. Bring our vest in here, as we're doing, uh, what we take in the woods. That's all I can think of. Yeah, maybe we'll do a video mid-season this year or something. I think second week of season, after we get our trucks situated and post it on, yeah, youtube.
Speaker 1:I got a bunch of um carpet and installation stuff to put in my truck. Oh, yeah, we got to do that. Camper shell yeah, and I'm glad to share links and stuff to the bed and stuff that we wind up putting in the camper shell and Ranch Road. I've got one of them, ranch Road tub things that separates a bunch of stuff and we'll kind of incorporate that I think they sent us one out last year and it came in pretty handy. I've got a bigger back seat now it's going to be a lot easier. Last year I put it in there and I was like whoever buys this truck's gonna get this, because I'm not getting it back out. It was to the inch, yeah, and I don't think it was supposed to go in there. I think it was just really hot that day and it kind of molded a little bit in there and then when I tried pulling it out, it wasn't that hot. I'm like, well, yeah, now, but, um, yeah, I think it's pretty sweet. Yeah, yeah, that's all I got. And, um, one last check, yep, anyway.
Speaker 1:So when y'all hear us again I don't know what the the plan is for the season this will be the longest. This is usually when we wrap it up. This will usually be our finale episode. And if you listen to this in february of next year no, maybe not. If you listen to this in novemberary of next year no, maybe not. If you listen to this in november, this would be the only the first one on the list, because this is when we we say we're about to go hunting and we'll see y'all next week and we don't come back. Yeah, we won't come back next week and we're gonna maybe have a story to tell you, maybe not. That will only give us two days to make a story.
Speaker 1:So, um, hopefully it's a little more eventful than last year's opener when it just it rained for 24 straight hours. It's kind of what it's looking like, but we'll see. Yeah, at least we'll do something in the rain and tell y'all about it. But, um, that will probably have a couple bonus episodes for some stories and special guests that I've mentioned a couple times. They'll be here in march, so something to look forward to, I guess.
Speaker 1:Uh, anyways, looking forward to hearing from y'all, looking forward to seeing a bunch of turkey pictures in the near future and love hearing about you know what you all think of the new gear and the brand and stuff like that. Every time you all share a review and those stars carry a lot of weight and all the shares and likes and follows and stuff obviously is very much appreciated, especially this time of year, because this is when we're interactive most on all of the social platforms and you know, know, really starting friendships a lot. I mean, I have a lot of friends now who are good friends. Yeah, that came from a random instagram tag or something, or a question or shout out to this or that or whatever. So I appreciate those, as always, and we appreciate y'all listening to the spring legend podcast. We'll see you next week.
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