The Spring Legion Podcast
Welcome to a year-round discussion on the wild turkey and those who hunt them. Hosted by Hunter Farrior, founder of Spring Legion and author of Ballad of a Turkey Hunter, the weekly podcast is geared for all outdoor communities and dives deeper than the usual tactics and calling tips. Holding true to the brand, topics are built upon respecting the heritage and challenges of hunting, with a never-ending appreciation for all that the spring season provides. Enjoy insight from special guests like Dave Owens of Pinhoti Project, Cuz Strickland of Mossy Oak, our friends at NWTF and Muscadine Bloodline, and so many more widely known for their impact in the turkey hunting community, as well as the deer, duck, and waterfowl realm, who exhibit the obsession of which only a real turkey hunter may truly understand. Thanks for listening.
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“Patient” Turkey Hunters and One Wild NWTF Convention Recap
What happens when road trip chaos meets the electric energy of a massive convention? Picture this: oversized trailers, unexpected gas station mishaps, and the breathtaking camaraderie of Nashville's NWTF Convention. We recount the behind-the-scenes hilarity and hurdles of our journey from Mississippi to the heart of this vibrant gathering. You'll hear the humorous tales of our logistical misadventures and the resilience that kept us moving forward, fueled by the excitement of connecting with fellow hunting enthusiasts.<br><br>Step into the world of turkey hunting culture with us as we explore its rich history and evolving dynamics. We share the stage with notable personalities like David Hawley and Brent Rogers, reflecting on the authentic essence of the hunt amidst the changing tides of commercialization. Discover insights into the art of turkey calling and the balance between tradition and innovation as we navigate the mindset and community that make these gatherings truly special. It's a celebration of shared passion, lifelong friendships, and the spirit of the hunt.<br><br>As the NWTF event wraps up, we shift gears to embrace the thrill of turkey hunting season. We share stories from the field, highlighting the unpredictable nature of the hunt and the lessons learned along the way. From Florida field escapades to mastering calling techniques, we discuss the importance of patience, adaptability, and authenticity in every hunt. Join us for a heartfelt wrap-up, where we express our gratitude to listeners and set our sights on the adventures and insights yet to come in the spring turkey woods.
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Speaker 1:Joining you alongside Chase Farrier, my name's Hunter Farrier, and we are probably a little less happy-go-lucky than you heard us last week, because about two years of our life have been shaved off in the past seven days, eight days, I'm sorry, because we didn't. This is a day late publishing. Y'all got to excuse us. Yeah, but um, but we're here, we made it, we're back in mississippi. Barely, I was about to say, but barely, man, it was a um. It was a long week and some days. Yeah, I guess I don't even know how. I guess it was officially a full week, a full week Monday to Monday. We left to head up to Nashville Just a little about 24, I mean seven days and a few hours ago. Yeah, because we're recording this about 10 o'clock at night on the Monday of the day the episode was supposed to release but it didn't, and we just now worked our way through a trailer of tornadic activity, it seems like, until we found a podcast box and broke it open and pulled the Ropecaster out. So not that we didn't get around to it, we couldn't get to it. Yeah, we had to find it first, exactly, um, which, which is about how the next day or two might go. Yeah, I mean, it ain't over.
Speaker 1:Y'all think we just come back here and hit like nothing, nothing ever happened and pick up and stride uh, wrong, yes, it's about a four-week endeavor, I guess, if that's the right word. Well, it's crazy because and I was thinking this walking out of the Opryland, I mean I was just kind of thinking to myself I love the convention, I love going up there, I love the smell of the Gaylord Center area and I hear the waterfalls and it smells like the NWTF convention. I mean it's just when I walk in, it just does and and I'm seeing folks and stuff, but my gosh, I mean I've lived literally since about october that's. I mean that's as a businessman. That's all that's on your mind is preparing for this and how well you're going to be equipped for it. What are you going to forget? I mean, we had card readers, equipment, everything on expedited shipping that you know the saturday before. I mean, yeah, that we realized was gone. The amazon account has been burning, it has been smoking because we're figuring out stuff we don't have, that we should have gotten and that we that we did have, but it's a different size than this and you know, just the stuff to get there and look like a really big garage sale is, I mean, very overwhelming to get, honestly.
Speaker 1:But for all that and it's gone in like 72 hours oh yeah, I mean you blink and it's over. I mean I literally felt like a tornado hit. I mean I looked up at one point and just like took my hat off and was like sitting there. I'm like I couldn't see through the booth to see what we're running out of. We're trying to restock as folks are coming in, coming out, coming in, coming out, and like I mean I couldn't see his wall of people. It was just a mob almost and I could just see like bits and corners of certain shells and stuff and I'm like, well, that one's empty, no-transcript, that one, that one, that one, and then they'll swing by, check out and you know, you look back over there, it's gone again.
Speaker 1:Um, so it's a process. It's a process and we learn that figure out a better way to get more of each size and everything out next year. I don't think we will. I mean, it's just we only get a limited amount of space. Yeah, we ran out, we maximized it as much as we honestly possibly could. I think it's a recycling deal, but the main objective of us being there for the most part is to meet and talk to folks.
Speaker 1:Right, I kept that my priority. I think you did too, absolutely, and, um, that reminds me wanting to give a big thank you to everybody who came out to it, absolutely, on behalf of every vendor there. I can promise you thank you from all of us, because it was some rough weather, yeah, and there was I don't know what the official total is, but over a hundred thousand people. They ain't no way not down my mind. I'm, yeah, I'm pretty positive. It's got to break it. Yeah, I mean, I saw 70 000 last year and this probably cleared that by the second day, oh yeah, but other than that, yeah, it was just a steady flow from nine to six every day, which was cool and which makes it more enjoyable for everybody.
Speaker 1:I believe also, um, also More of a rhythm, right, it just got really heavy there for a little while, yeah, but I mean there was folks walking God knows how far. I think somebody showed me they dropped a pin on their truck, yeah, and I think it was like 2.2 miles, yeah, or something like that. So I mean 1.9 or something. I mean it was right around that two-mile mark. They walked in the pouring rain, not drizzle, 28-degree weather or even colder than that. Maybe I don't even remember what it was. I mean so, to get there, you know, and that's dedication and that means a lot. Like you know, that's our livelihood, jailer Sport, yeah, like I mean that's a very big deal, you know, and appreciation for that, I mean, if it weren't for folks like that and there was a lot of folks like that. So I mean we're talking to you. Big thank you for that, and I'm speaking on behalf of however many vendors are there. You know y'all are driving, you know dreams, so to speak, absolutely Just showing up. Yep, literally. But wanted to give a shout-out before I forget about it to a giveaway winner, because once we get to rambling about these past few days and then on to some turkey hunting conversation, they're going to tell them what rabbit holes we might find. But big shout-out to you.
Speaker 1:Got his name over there. Yeah, this is an Apple Podcast Review giveaway, correct, correct? Apple Podcast Review. Yeah, um, this is a an apple podcast review. Yeah, correct, correct apple podcast review um, usernames w cooper, 0, 8, 2, 4. Each time I listen the guys throw a tip in that I have to, that I have to pause the podcast and write it down, so I don't forget it. Great show. Yeah, so appreciate that. Yeah, appreciate that. We do try to do that kind of naturally at times. Yes, and, and some stuff might not be intended to be a tip, it's just an occurrence, yeah, you know. Yeah, we just appreciate the reviews. Absolutely.
Speaker 1:What are we getting this fellow? He's getting a and he can choose the pattern, but, uh, one of the the stretch, lightweight, uh, dry, fit hats of ours we got original bottom line and green leaf. They were a very big hit, they were at the convention. So, and if you were not at the convention to put your hands on it, if you've ever seen our old dry fit hats and that we used to have in gray and khaki, they're, they're made of the same material our pants were made, yeah, so four-way stretch, quick dry. I mean they're pretty sharp. I ain't a lot, but it's hard to tell in line. So I knew as soon as folks started touching them at the convention they were about to start flying. So, oh, yeah, um, they're really light too, yes, and sweat resistant. I mean, I love hats like that. So that's just my opinion, though, yeah, I wore the crap out of mine, but, um, we got those.
Speaker 1:And then we also, and we got a whole haul of hats, camouflage hats. They're like $20 an hour online. Good turkey hunting hat. We got like some of them are old school five-panel mesh back, look like the real, like the sure enough old school Mossy Oak made in the USA with the flag tag on the back. And then some are more modern, like the usual six-panel mesh backs that I wear hunting a lot. Y'all seem to wear them, and then, um, and then those those dry fit ones are a little that's. That's a futuristic feeling.
Speaker 1:I feel like yeah, and and one thing I wanted to mention on the website is everything that was out of stock is slowly but surely coming back in stock online, uh, that being the, the jackets and the pants and the gators and stuff. So gators are 50 ish, pants and jackets jacket 73, pants about 79, um, and I'm working on a couple bundles and this might be there by the time this thing publishes and it might not be until the next day, but if all goes well, we're going to be able to do some some bundle type things like a jacket, pant, gaiter for $200. Or an option B, which would be a jacket, a pair of pants, gloves, mask and hat for $200. Even Cut it, slice it, whatever you want to $200 gets you one of those two options, which is pretty dang good in today's world. I feel like I've seen a lot of new releases exceeding that for just one piece. So we're trying to get the whole bundle together and not break a bank. So check those out and uh, but um, pretty much as a whole, I I wanted to get into how we now in the world.
Speaker 1:We got there because it was, because it was a week's worth of stuff happening in the first day, maybe before people even thought about getting into the convention. You know, we're over here wondering if this is worth it. Oh, yeah, to an extent. We debated it at one point. Should we turn around? Our luck is not going good.
Speaker 1:So Chase worked that day, right, right, and then Got off a little early, but not Didn't matter, because I was not early. Yeah, oh, I forgot about that. Yeah, I packed both trailers alone, yeah, and I still ain't really Sunday night, I feel like. And Monday morning, yeah, because Hunter was quote unquote busy. Yeah, I was busy and I didn't have time to waste, right, no, we didn't. And yeah, so I had to get the podcast, the YouTube. No, we didn't get a YouTube. Or did we? Did get a YouTube, did we? Yeah, I put one up, oh, did get a youtube, did we? Yeah, I put one up. Oh, we didn't get one this week, not this week. We ain't y'all gonna get over it. Yeah, sorry, it'll be next week, but, um, but last week's I did.
Speaker 1:And and then all of the all the stuff we added. You know, you gotta remember that's got to be added to our store period. Yeah, so a lot of stuff we released there as far as casual wear goes, which if you weren't there it's gonna be spanish, because you know it ain't there no more. We'll re-release them once we restock everything, but a lot of really cool things we had there, casual wise and um had to get all that added and stuff.
Speaker 1:But heading up there, my god, I mean it was, uh, I mean, was it storming or I think, what about about Memphis? Maybe? Yeah, it was pretty decent sailing, other than almost me running out of gas in the Delta Chase Because I'm pulling. So we've both got oversized trailers for the trucks we drive. We have no business pulling either one of these. And I think I looked down, I was getting like seven, I was getting nine. I was getting nine, yeah, pounds of the gallon, right. So you know, toyota Tacoma doesn't have a very big fuel tank on it, right, I'm lucky to get about 280 out of that thing, not pulling something. Yeah, well, oh, this is the other thing. So we're pulling these trailers, leave the house, we make it six miles down the road to the one gas station around the house that's big enough to pull these trailers in.
Speaker 1:I was like something started it off. We went. This is how this week's going to go. This is exactly what it was no storms, no rain at home, bluebird skies. Yes, pull up to the gas station.
Speaker 1:Chase is bound and determined. We have to use this one because it's very easy for us to get in and get out and get out Because we're pushing. It's about 4 o'clock, so we're trying to beat 5 o'clock traffic. I feel like it was. Yeah, if we're 30 minutes later, you're tacking on two hours. Yeah, pretty much. So we pull in and there's a cone at every thing and I'm like that's cool, they're directing the traffic a little better.
Speaker 1:Then I realized it's just one of those little Kroger fuel centers. It's just a big one down here, just the fuel center and the bank next to it. Somebody's going to hit the power pole to or something, yeah, and then we're sitting there. No power, yeah, zero power at the gas pumps. Storm, no, we have made it four minutes down the road and now we're we're gonna get in the traffic because we got to go back through the different direction to get the the fuel or find a place that we can pull the trailer through and not get completely stuck in or wreck all of it. Yeah, um, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then then, then then you went to pull where did we try to get to a gas station? They didn't have no gas. Yes, second place we went this was a little ways down the road, just down the road, and then I finally said you know what I can make it? Yeah to, I don't know, oxford or something. Well, that's when the fuel mileage started dropping and I realized, yeah, we ain't gonna make it to oxford, we're gonna have to stop in whatever town this is. Oh, yeah, mine was started at 407 miles to empty and then 10 minutes later you got 111. Yeah, that's kind of how mine went from 100 to I had about a half tank, a lot of guessing To 40. And we're 38 miles from any town. Coming from Mississippi going to Nashville, remember, everything's going to be uphill, yeah, so, anyways. And then we pull off at that gas station and it says it's right off the exit and we end up sitting on the side of the road looking for this gas station and it's just behind one singular tree. Yeah, whole thing, um. And we hit out of mississippi. Yeah, we're barely out of the county and we're already going. My goodness, yeah, um, and then none of their didn't rain on all the dang daggum.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, dust covers for the 100, then around all of them, yeah, so a handful of them. This is some by design, by nature, I don't know. But my buddy, mason, who printed them over here in Jackson, printed them. He did an experiment on 40 dust covers, yeah, to test out some lamination they had left over or something. He was like, can I use yours to do it? I'm like, yeah, just make 100 of the same kind. As long as it's 100 of the same kind, I don't care what you do. I mean you can test on it, whatever, keep it. He had to get it approved and stuff. So he did that.
Speaker 1:And then I go to pick him up and he's not there. I think he went hunting or something and, um, I traded in pair gators for him, pretty much right. So me, mason was in my wed, so we're buddies and um big on the barter system too, since, since before we were friends, we were like I'll trade you this for this deal, have a lot of his old camouflage. He has a lot of my old camouflage stuff like that. Um, anyway, so I go and pick them up and I pick up all of them. So I pick up the 40 extras he made too.
Speaker 1:We're riding up and I'm half genius, half idiot, because I put half the dust covers in a gator bag just in case it rained. But I didn't put all of them in a gator bag just in case it rained, I put them all in a tub and put that tub under my new camper shell, which I do not know if it leaks or not, and we discovered it. I thought it rained the other day, but apparently it just fogged, real heavy Yep, and I walked outside and was like, oh well, I guess it's bone dry in there. I got a good one, yeah, and never thought about it again. So I put all this in there. And then we it was just kind of a side hotel and it is pouring rain, and that's the first thing I'm thinking of Like, make sure we get the dust covers in. That's the one thing that can't get wet. But we only got X amount and we only got X amount of books and they're all correlated with these numbered copies of the combo copy book y'all forever talk about, and half of them are wet. Yeah, they got the barcodes going with the correlated book.
Speaker 1:Everything that took a long time to do. That's out the window. How many was messed up? 40, yeah, exactly 40 were messed up. The other 60 were the ones I put in the in the random gator wrapper I found in the back of my truck, just in case, like the day before. So I spent the whole first night redoing all the the barcos and stuff. We can bring barcos on the man's.
Speaker 1:I just read the barcos and put those on the books and you know half of the hundred folks who did get a copy of the first 100 prints, some of y'all got some really laminated dust jackets, some of y'all got some barely laminated dust jackets. But if you don't put them side by side you're not gonna know. Um, but you got one and you would not have one if mason mavi didn't want to test out a new lamination machine. So y'all give him a shout out for that. I couldn't tell the difference. Hunter had to tell me about the I came. If they're not next to each other, yeah, I had no idea. Um, so they're the same thing. He was telling me all kinds of verbiage and terms for it that it would weigh, like when I grabbed them, like I can kind of tell that one's a little denser. Yeah, thicker feeling, I guess Same paper and everything. I'm like I have no idea. It's print in terms, I guess I don't know, yeah, um, but yeah, so that was pretty bad, yeah, so, yeah, that was the way.
Speaker 1:Then you heard a murder. Oh, yeah, so I guess that was Monday night. Yeah, I don't know. I think that was the first night, I think it was the first night, it was still within the first. It took us nine hours to get there. It was a six-hour drive. It took us nine hours. I feel like there was something else happening. Oh, yeah, yeah, from about Memphis to Nashville Was road work, with no lines on the roads. I'm telling you, I don't know who is over there freaking, who approved these Reflector Department for roads in Tennessee, but I wanted to know where he lived.
Speaker 1:Anyways, one thing or another 4.30 in the morning, I hear hear woman screaming bloody murder, just help, screaming, help and ow, and oh, my god. And I, I thought it was my dream, yeah, so I just kind of wake up and I was like, huh, that was weird. And then I keep hearing and I'm like I'm not fully awake. Yeah, you're fully asleep. Yeah, I didn't wake up and anyways, like after a minute or two, like or not a minute or two, but like a second or two. I kind of realized I can blink my eye like almost one of them like pinch yourself things. Um, anyways, look outside, security teams out there holding there, holding a girl in handcuffs, yeah, and 23 cops pull up and then they put her in the ambulance, yeah, take her away, and then they kind of wrap it up pretty quick.
Speaker 1:No answers on that one yet Still haven't heard. Yeah, I didn't go to sleep after that. Very well, jason, I didn't say it was a crazy town or whatever. It's crazy. Now you know, I didn't go to sleep after that. Very well, jason, I didn't say it was a crazy town or whatever. It's a crazy town, now you know. Now you know it's a crazy town, fiddler's Inn or wherever that was. But yeah, so we're barely breathing at this point getting there and it's Monday morning. But then I mean then it's NWTF convention and everything's good. Yep, because I mean you're seeing folks you only see this time of year and making this. You know it's a reunion type of deal. I mean all the mozzie oak folks.
Speaker 1:Oh, the main story of the whole daggone show was the full foliage release, yes, which was awesome, incredible. Yeah, um, I'll tell you, I knew full foliage was coming back this year for a while now. Yeah, that was the hint, you kind of. Yeah, I almost slipped up on a couple podcasts and mentioned them, never mind. And the vest I knew they were dropping a vest too and stuff. I mean, I've known this for a while but I had no idea the extent of full foliage.
Speaker 1:They did everything, full foliage. I'm thinking, like you know, some shirts. I was thinking just the vest and a hat or two or something. Yeah, just a vest and a hat. But boy did they. They did a lot. Everything. I mean everything you think of. They release new things like leafy suits and stuff. I've never seen them like the woodman series, leafy like throat, like legitimate throwback stuff. Yeah, um, and that's in full foliage. And then, right, they had like the companions lines is in full foliage now, which is not the cotton mill stuff, that's's in full foliage. Right, they had like the Companions lines is in full foliage now, which is not the cotton mill stuff, that's also in full foliage. Or the tippy material, you know, also in full foliage.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you, what I liked was that crew neck. I'm mad I didn't grab one by the end of the show. I tried to two or three times and they were already out of sight. Yeah, I was a little upset. I didn't grab one of them too I ain't even accruing that guy but as soon as I saw him, that looks like straight up 1989 right there. Yeah, brett got one. Oh, he did. Yep, I got a T-shirt and that's all they had.
Speaker 1:By the second day I felt like that vest is pretty slick. Yeah, I'd always seen pictures of it. I didn get to like, touch it, like I was able to right, um, which I do believe march 8th, they're releasing that in west point I saw the full foliage and the vest will be available at their turkey tailgate deal. Okay, if y'all don't know that, if y'all are in the, literally the tri-state area is worth going to absolutely west point at their you know their outlet right there, or like their headquarter type deal where they hold everything. Um, and it's awesome, it sparked from the fox vest deal and it was practically a freaking quarter mile long sleepover for turkey hunters.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, on, all, everybody's pulling an all-nighter at the outlet there and, um, we're like, hey, let's do that again. You know, every year let's make it a two-day event for, you know, call makers, yeah, we get the tip of the cap because of the book and stuff. You know, like you know small, very niche-type deals there. It's not a bunch of you know, it's not like a trade show or anything, it's literally just you get a table and get to hang out with Red Beard and other folks, like that Really really cool deal. That's March 8th. We'll be there, good Lord willing, and then all the new releases of Mossy Oaks coming March 10th online, okay, so if you ain't going to make that, you have March 10th to jot down for that and I would do that. I'm going to do that. I'm going to get it done. I'm definitely going to get it done, because I missed out because we were ginning over there across the hall, but good to see everybody from there. The whole Mossy Oak team is awesome, obviously, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Got to see a lot of folks. Got to see David Hawley finally, gosh, it's been a minute for me too. He's always at the same things I'm at. Yeah, our paths never cross. I saw him briefly for just a second. I couldn't believe when. I'm like they. Actually we actually ran into each other and we'll be, you know, next to each other the whole time. Which he, david holly wild turkey report. I'm sure a lot of y'all know um, he's been on our podcast before, but it's it takes act congress to come across him at some of these things. I feel like I'll see him from a distance just long enough to miss him. But not only we saw a shoot.
Speaker 1:I talked to a lot of folks that I have never actually shook hands with, right, yeah, I found myself saying good to see you again and they say we've never met. Yeah, I feel like I know you because I watch you on YouTube and listen to your podcast and stuff. Right, I mean Mike Duzzi Nomad was across the hall from us. Got to talk to him for the first time. Cus stopped by the booth a little bit before that opened one day. I talked to him for a good while. Yeah, and look over there. John Garrett Allen's over there, good buddy of ours, who has come to, I think, every trade show we've ever been part of Because he's from around here. So he's at this one and he's also always at NWTF and we always manage to talk a little bit. Look forward to seeing him every year. He's one of those I mentioned last time. I expect to see some of y'all there. Yeah, and he was one of them.
Speaker 1:I spent a long time talking to Eric aka Sleazy. Oh, sleazy, yep, yeah, I like old Sleazy. We ran into each other Sleazy from the Ben Hody Project YouTube channel I'm sure a lot of y'all watch that Talked to him at the elevator for like 30 minutes. Dude, we had known each other for our whole life. Just a solid dude, a really good dude. We talked about patience, more than anything you know, and just the mindset of turkey hunting and stuff which was really cool.
Speaker 1:Brent Rogers was talked about at the booth on the last day and this is something I did want to mention to folks who weren't able to go this year but have been able to go in the past. I mean he noted kind of we were talking about books. Brent Rogers is the archive of turkey hunt literature. So like he has my proofs, he has like the number ones and stuff of things. He's not going to lose it. I might lose that. So the valuable ones don't go in a safe. I send them to Brent because he's the guy and he's like a walking museum practically, of literature and turkey hunting and calls and collectives and stuff like that. Super cool dude, very, I mean just stupid, knowledgeable and just I mean he's a very sharp guy. I think he has one of every turkey hunting book ever. I feel like that's like not an exaggeration, like if it's ever been written he's got it. But he was talking about.
Speaker 1:This is not even a slight change. There has been over the past few years, a change in the culture of turkey hunting. Yeah, and you know, a revival and a reversion. I feel like, if there's even a word, reverting back to the hunt itself, the difficulty of I call it a battle. You know I don't want to degrade actual battle or actual terms like that, you know, but it's, you know you're duking it out with an animal and there's a lot of emphasis on that now and just an appreciation for that and what I'm saying is there was much less plastic and much less flashy and much less guarantees and much less things of that nature than there was five years ago.
Speaker 1:I feel like you know you walk around everybody's. I mean there were signs galore of like you know the word success and guarantee and you know all these things were just everywhere and people walking around with big bags and just I mean had a daggum spread of decoys on their back walking out of there. You know, it's just. I mean not that I'm against folks, you know, using decoys or anything, but I mean there was no remote control turkey going around. You know, I remember that the first time I went there, I'm like what in the world is going on here, dude? It's like three remote control strutter decoys, like I thought it was a joke not a joke, but like a, you know, like an attraction. But it was like folks who had bought them, right, you know, I'm like, well, you know, right, I don't know about all that. Yeah, I remember those days, but it is changed.
Speaker 1:Just, folks, that what they wanted to talk about was far less the number of turkeys they were going to kill and have killed. And right, you know how easy were going to kill and have killed. Right, you know how easy it was to kill them at this place, on this field, with. You know, this headshot Folks you wouldn't think we're talking about it or talking about. You know, getting whipped. You know that's kind of cool. Again, you know giving credit when credit's due and how hard of a hunt you had and it didn't work out.
Speaker 1:We talked a lot about that, probably more, and the folks I was talking to were folks like you know, sleazy, and folks who hunt a whole lot of gilded men every day. You can imagine, plus some. The subject of discussion is usually the ones we didn't kill A hundred percent. Yeah, that's more the conversation. Which is turkey hunting. I'm not saying that's awesome, you know, we as a community did it. We reverted every, we took a step backward. No, I'm just saying like that's turkey hunting to me and like it's coming around to everybody, it's good to see, you know, seeing that I mean they're making their choice on what to say, it's good to see, and the folks who've been around a long time agree, I feel like I, I mean, I can, I can say, you know, bump off that a little bit.
Speaker 1:I, I saw the same thing, you know, yeah, I did catch myself saturday, kind of, and you know what, I think we're on the right track. I think, yeah, I think, think, think we're, we're good, I think turkey hunt is gonna survive. Yeah, and I mean I'm telling y'all when, when spring legion was founded, the purpose was because I was worried it might not. Yeah, I was scared it was going to turn into something I didn't want to ever see, exactly, um, and it was only it was on the brink of an and I'm not saying I could see very far ahead, but I'm pretty good, you know, picking up on things that are coming right in markets and stuff like that and that was, I'm like this is about to get haywire because the, the timing of media, the timing of um, the introduction into the turkey woods, is about to clash with a bunch of folks who, who understand algorithms, who understand things like that, who can monetize the wild turkey easier than ever, right, and of the animals, I feel like turkeys, if you exploit their automatics, yeah, you'll be taking advantage of probably more than any, I agree, any other.
Speaker 1:You know species, really, yeah, they're, they're more hardwired, I feel like, than anything else in the woods, right, um, so what they're good at, they're really good at and what their flaw is, they are 100 died by it every time, almost. You know um, and humans have brains who can figure that out. And once they figured it out, and once you combine that with media and once you combine that with the yearning to learn and a new generation wanting to learn how to turkey hunt and there wasn't no more books getting written, there wasn't, you know, vhss were kind of becoming relics. I got a stack of DVDs, you know, in my house but they weren't really getting put out like they were by the. You know what was left of the old pros and the stuff. It was turning real market-y, you know, and folks were believing the.
Speaker 1:You got to have this to kill turkey. You got to have this right. You got to have that to kill turkeys when no one talking about you don't need anything but air and opportunity to kill a turkey really call helps. Yeah, I mean literally, yeah, get a call and a gun, you can go kill like man. Was that like we're walking examples of that? But we have. But you all know how many acres we got on our camp. It was 80. Yeah, 80 acres and one long beard. Yeah, and we didn't cover money. Our kids ain't coming for money. I promise you no, because that's just our situation. You can, literally, if you have a truck and it needs to shoot them with and go with, you got it.
Speaker 1:I love that about turkey hunting and I think that was nervous, that that wasn't going to profit folks and that was about to go, that was about to be an unheard of discussion. And even now and we're in the thick of it as far as businesses go, and I've been very clear with everyone who's ever even hinted at it that you know, a turkey will never determine my livelihood, whether or not I kill a turkey, you know Right. That's why our YouTubes kind of suck, because I don't have to kill one, I'm not going to. You know, nothing more rides on that than what it has to be. We'll never have a quota of Exactly. We don't have to have a number of kills or something. That's just fine, right, right.
Speaker 1:This is a whole new gig to us. It's just apparel. Now we're doing gear. We ain't ever going to have an agenda or a plan or something like that. And that's not just. This ain't an ad for Spring Leisure.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying that was my mindset going into it, because I was legitimately worried about this. The current state, yeah, or more. Or the direction of the future state, yeah, um, I'm not as worried anymore. Yeah, I think you can have a discussion about dog proofs with about anybody in that freaking building. They know brands and how to set. Yeah, you know, I agree. Um, it's good to see. Yeah, that's, that's all I'm going to say. You know it is. I had a topic in mind I was talking to and I was going to build off of that discussion I was talking about earlier about patience. That was sleazy. Yeah, I talked to him and I talked to one or two more about it too. What do you say? By the way, big congratulations to Dave. Oh, yeah, he won the Worlds. If you missed that, dave won Worlds World champion.
Speaker 1:Turkey caller Again. I think it's again. He's done it before, I don't know how many times, but congratulations to him Absolutely, and I think it was by a good bit. It seemed like it From the folks I talked to. He said it wasn't down in the room. Yeah, a very deserving fella from what I understand, right, yeah, for a pursuit in which 99 doesn't always cut it.
Speaker 1:We've rested our liability in apex's ammunition since they began making turkey loads in 2017. Their iconic tss turkey shells are able to pack more shot into traditional payloads, resulting in more pellet scent, more consistent patterns and an increased pattern density. So, in other words, apex makes sure that the conclusion to those long-fault battles of spring are instant, absolute and ethical. But what he was talking about, eric was, was he had this gobbler and we were actually talking about getting old? Yeah, I'm sure he didn't want to hear it from me and we were actually talking about getting old. I'm sure he didn't want to hear it from me, but I was like for the first time in a while I feel like I have lost a step a little bit and I ain't but 32. I say ain't but 32, but I'm sure a lot of folks are like you have no idea how good you have it. I'm aware that it ain't going uphill. I promise you it's going downhill from here, but I feel way better at the end of turkey season than I do at the beginning. Now, and I used to. That wasn't the case. I'd just get tired a little bit during turkey season and now I'm like that's gone.
Speaker 1:This first week or so is get in shape week, and he was talking about he's making loops and rounds and getting ready for it and he's like you're going to have to do that one day. But he was talking about a turkey had gotten way up on the ridge, right over whatever, and he had gotten all the way, all the way, all the way to the top, and that turkey had flown down and from what I can tell and remember, it was possibly could meet him in the middle or bump him more so he stops. Yeah, and he was thinking he said the old him or something would have just took off. You know, after a minute or two he caught his breath, realized you know the turkey's done, flown down or something of that nature this is all paraphrasing, I think, if I remember it right but just kind of said just sit there and just you know, see what will happen. And he waited a long time to do that. Yeah, he did, and he didn't gobble. He. Just he heard a drum at the one. Not far at all, I mean, would have seen him in two seconds flat and would have never known it kind of deal. Yeah, and you know, he came over there, he scratched again, came over there and shot him.
Speaker 1:But we're just talking about the patience aspect of it. And this goes back to my conversation with Mr Mayfield last year. George Mayfield, and it hit me about that week and he was a good one to have on the podcast that week because he is one of the old pro blue bloods of turkey hunting. If you haven't listened to it, just search it and find it. I'm hoping we might have him on again before the season starts. But and I had him reiterate it because I wasn't sure. This was one of those I don't want to say until you know someone who is of that cloth confirms. But the patience these old timers kept talking about was not just sit there and deer hunt and wait. It was be patient in your next move. Right, you got to be patient. Let the turkey make his move. Yeah, just wait.
Speaker 1:Doing nothing's the hardest thing to do in turkey. Hunting, oh, by far. I mean it's just like and I was talking to another fellow at the booth completely unrelated about writing books like writing's easy. Condensing the writing into a book is hard, you know, doing less is the hard part, not the doing more. It's easy to to call and to walk and to look and to scout and stuff. It's the only doing an x amount. You know. Making a, a story only x amount of words is very hard, right, you know. Condensing it down into, you know, single phrases and stuff, I mean you think of the phrase like what goes up must come down and how much that packs. Right, they can talk about either stock markets to lifespans. You know everything. So much can come from one sentence. That's good writing. You remember that. I remember that Everybody that's listening to this, has heard that and remembers that they don't remember the ninth sentence of Ballad of a Turkey Hunter. Whoever in the world wrote that sentence, they remember. But how few things you're able to do, that's the hard part of turkey hunting.
Speaker 1:The patience comes from winning the efficiency of those moves and letting the turkey be a turkey more than anything. If you make your move, you know where he is and he's got it in this case and I'm branching off of his story here I ain't going to put words in his mouth, so to speak, right, but I'm saying like I can put myself in those shoes and exactly that feeling of like, well, if he flies down, he's going to fly down and stand right there and I'm going to go over here and do that. But that ain't always the case, right, just wait and let him fly down and go where he wanted to go. You know he knew where you were. Whatever could have, could have not, but let him do what he's going to do and then do what you were going to do, instead of when you start doing the back-to-backs, you call here he gobbles and you want to do two more moves, move up, then call and then move up again, without him answering, in the middle or without knowing about it. He didn't answer, he drummed at him, which they do a lot. They'll drum at you instead of gobble, especially if you're close quarters like that. Right, I don't know if it's in public or not, but I mean that sounds like one To me. They would drum at you instead of gobble at you. If you're within your distance of drumming and know to listen, for that Don't listen. You get your blinders on and just listen. For gobbles you ain't gonna hear one on a lot. I don't have you on the place. A lot of times I don't think, especially, you know, right in the beginning stages of the season when folks are wearing it out. Um, we had two, three little scratches right there. That turkey drummed at him and I don't know how close far he was. But, right, I could put myself in them shoes very quickly of thinking Up until maybe three, probably after we started this podcast three years ago, I didn't understand that concept of patience, like he and a lot of other veterans in the sport did, and we hit on that for a while.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm just now kind of figuring some of those weird things like that out. Still, you know myself Just how, like y'allall know, I like to call a lot, you know, differently than hunter does a lot of times, but sometimes worse, sometimes it doesn't. Yeah, but a lot of folks call a lot. I've, I've, I've found myself honing back on you know scenarios a lot more and seeming to have, you know, good luck with it whenever I am thinking in the proper mindset of that, and but also, don't stress yourself out over it too terribly. Yeah, you don't enjoy it. There's a lot of turkeys I would not have killed if I didn't burn a call down, right, I want to say, if y'all listen to this, the week it released the last video we did release, I burned the call down, yeah, which is kind of opposite of what folks think of hunting.
Speaker 1:I'm like that ain't every time, right, that's just when I'm hunting around here or you know if I'm hunting Mississippi public land or Alabama public land, or you know places like that. That I'm probably not the first person they've heard in the past 24 hours. Potentially, yeah, you know that's what you got to do. You got to act way more like a turkey, but then I go off to other places or a piece of private or something I'm not strictly hunting publicly. If I can find a piece of private, I'm hunting it. Oh yeah, I'm calling.
Speaker 1:I got to convince the gobbler, you know, right, if he's responding to me, good and everything, I've got to talk him over. You know, you got to do what you got to do or the timing of the calls is big, but I wear them out just as much as anybody if the occasion calls for it, right. And I guess there's a lack of patience, you know, in a good way. You know, don't be too patient, don't just sit on that. You know, if you sit on them, don't get mad when the opportunity walks away. Right, right, yeah, that was what I was kind of wanting to hit at there a little bit more.
Speaker 1:That's one of those things that I, you know I'm slow, you know I'm not, I won't say I'm slowly learning it, but I'm, I'm, I'm paying more attention to this, this, the times that it does work and the times that they do walk away, right, you know. And sometimes you just got to hang your hat on him and say, well, yeah, it didn't work out, you know, and that's okay, hindsight's 20, 20. Yeah, doing that, or or knowing when you hit the button of doing too much and realize he's gonna let you know when you do too much. And and there's several times, especially when I go back and watch these videos, I bet you, yeah, oh, I've learned a good bit. That's what's hitting me.
Speaker 1:The hardest part is like saying that was the one, that that's when it happened. It didn't it shifted right there, yep, and then thinking to myself like I went for two more hours and just, was it so ahead of myself there, or, you know, not thinking straight, realize it, I didn't notice that, you know. And then I'm like dang, you know, in the game at this time, if I, yeah, this whole next hour of footage, I shouldn't even watch. I don't even want to watch. You know, I'm gonna be aggravated now because I didn't. You know, I did this and I knew when I hit the button, you know, cut it off. That was it.
Speaker 1:Like you said last week, you know, whenever you said that, that's it, that's going to leave him in the tree, I gobbled as soon as my striker left my call. That was too many, that was it. Three was too many, yep, and that joker did not gobble again for the next 15 minutes. I'm like it might not have been Next gobble boom, right there in the tree again, same tree, 11.30 rolls around, boom, same tree. That joker ain't down yet. He's like thumbs up. And it was because of something I did. I didn't have the heart to tell Breck that I was like I almost started packing up my bag.
Speaker 1:I thought of Jennings a long time in Nashville. It was one of the little things after things and I remember me, him and Seals were hunting a bird last year. He killed it the next day, but the day I was there I was like I'm packing up boys. I mean, I just knew it was over, like that ain't a I mean silent woods, that's empty woods. They ain't here, no more.
Speaker 1:We did something wrong. I don't know what it was. I was doing the calling, so it was me. I did something wrong, but I knew they don't just hush up like that. Uh-uh, it ain't his day. It smelled right of some frequency there. Yeah, and it ain't gonna happen, but it might tomorrow. So I advise us getting out of here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I couldn't hunt the next day. I'd be like y'all come back in here and y'all redo. Yeah, that's all you can do. Um, but a big patience in calling. Wait until the wind is not blowing. Wait until the wind is blowing and when your next move and you know I will and I would I'm disciplining and wait until there's shadows. If it's, unless it's a cloud in the sky, you know I will turn a 15-yard walk into a 500-yard walk in a heartbeat, just so I don't walk through the sunshine, through an open area, through anything that might be an obvious change in contrast between what I'm wearing and in the backdrop. Yeah, which could be dark camouflage, not dark camouflage If it's wide open and I'm wearing a leafy suit which blends in really good in the hardwoods. But you know, if it's a darker color leafy suit and there's wind blowing and stuff, you know I'm not walking across a field of really light-colored dirt, absolutely not.
Speaker 1:You know you're going to be picked up from a turkey. You don't know. Is there 600 yards away? I'm talking hypothetical.
Speaker 1:I treat every situation like a turkey's looking at me at all times. And you will drive yourself crazy over it, absolutely. And you'll drive yourself crazy with a box call in your hand, waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and all of a sudden, like you hear the wind stop where, or you hear the wind start way over there and you it is now or never. You know that's the one gust you get all day and then you got to call right for that and and hope you can hear it and then, if you don't, you guys I'm not moving forward. If I know a turkey's in there and he didn't gobble at that and I gotta wait till that gust makes his whole way through, it might take three whole minutes, which is 30 years in turkey time. Oh yeah, before I do it again or not do it again and I'm still not moving and he'll gobble right after. It's like he's waiting on it too. Right, he wants to hear you and he wants to be heard a lot of times, um, but I mean that's a whole, two rabbit whole. We can go down for about a whole hour and a half, I would feel like. And what to be patient on, you know pretty much Right From I mean practice your calling.
Speaker 1:I don't think Dave Owens woke up one day and was just a world champion, yelper, yep, I think he put the hours in. Oh yeah, you know, I would assume I would say yeah, or anybody of that nature. Anybody who just perfects very nearly perfects a craft. Pretty much it was like paid off, and that happens to a lot of turkey hunters. You know what you realize.
Speaker 1:You know what you got to do and what you did wasn't enough to kill this one. You got to do something else. It might be sit longer, which is nothing, which is the hardest thing or wait longer that's the hardest thing, that's the second hardest thing, because the first hardest thing for a grown man to do is unlearn something, oh God, something you thought was right and you've got to convince yourself that you were not right. I think we need a whole episode on what we have tried to unlearn. I learn pretty often I'm not going to lie you what I have to unlearn pretty often because I'm not going to lie you what I have to unlearn pretty often because I'm a very fast thinker. I guess you would say by the bird, my gears turn very fast and I race that whiteboard after every one of them, but I have to hold on to a lot of them and then kind of almost regurgitate them as it comes. If this is starting to look like this is going to happen, I'll think back to 2008 when this happened almost. But if I try to do that the whole time, none of them are going to align.
Speaker 1:Um, and I read the bird move by move by move. I'm telling you every turkey is different, but I'm down to the micro level of even the same turkey on different days different. And even the turkey that you were working at 9 am that morning, if it's 11 30, is a different bird in my book. I'm treating it after the you're only as good as your last performance kind of mentality. Right, whatever his last move was is what my next move is based on. And if he ain't made it, it's really hard. I will have to. I mean, you can't wait for a sun to go down. You got to make a move but you got to base it off your information. And sometimes it's sitting there and waiting, and waiting, and waiting. And if he hadn't moved his chest piece, so to speak.
Speaker 1:Going back to that story, you know the scratching that Zalisi did, initiated it. You know it wasn't him moving, moving, walking towards him where he last was, I don't know how long ago 30 minutes could have been but just to see if he would, if he would be obliged to let him know where he's at, he did, and that changed probably what he was going to do. Yeah, he killed it. So it worked, something worked. Yeah, um, it's hard to argue that, just like hard to argue over calling if it works.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, chase got roasted on a video from florida about a year ago for over calling a turkey shot. Hey, I figured out this. Log in. Cut them comments for all night. I think I turned back on. I like reading them. Jeez, that was rough and I did. And I mean when I watched the video back I was like god, you caught a lot. It's hard to say you ever caught if you shoot it, but you know if you shoot the turkey, you're calling that. It's hard to say you did something. I think. I think they were talking about the first part of the video. They might have been.
Speaker 1:When the bird came out there at 80 yards in the road and stood there for 20 minutes, it felt like yeah, and there was only one reason. I mean I don't call that much all the time. No, it was just a situation of confusion and concern. That was y'all's first time of the year, wasn't that was, wouldn't it probably? No, everybody recalls first time of the year. I feel like no, so well, I mean I over called a little bit on that one bird in mississippi. That was the day before. No, no, this is a whole nother year. I guess it was before. I wasn't, I don't even remember um, whatever it was. Well, a me and seals had never hunted together without you, ever right.
Speaker 1:So we were all confused with each other trying to get set up. It was, it was almost comical, um, not thinking straight, you know, just trying to figure everything back out. Totally didn't expect to hear a turkey in there. I was going to say I feel like the turkey being there caught you off guard and we were panicked Not panicked, but it rushed Right To get set up. Y'all had to cut him off and he was moving. He was moving and our truck was on that road about 15 feet in front of where we ended up sitting down. I had to reverse the truck out of there, run back up there and try and do all this before they got close enough to that road to see down it, because once they cross that road, you ain't seeing them over five yards away.
Speaker 1:And so I was calling every call I knew how to, trying to tell him hey, there is a hen in this thicket over here, thinking to myself he can't walk through the thicket to see over here and he knows it. In the road, obviously and I can promise you from a not that much color, if you hadn't have called, guess what he would have done Walked straight across it, the same daggone thing. He wouldn't have stayed there for 15 minutes waiting on me. He would have done nothing different. I saw it in his eyes. You don't know. You're there, he ain't walking there. He hung back. He was the lead bird come out and then let everything else pass him, which I've seen turkeys do. Once they get to a road, they kind of step out, check it out, then watch them all cross, get it in the same block with them and then they follow. I'd have let him have it then.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that's when I hammered down just straight. It just didn't work. So it was easy to comment and say, yeah, it didn't work. So it's easy to comment and say yeah, it didn't work. Now I think that bird did push his hands and the other bird closer towards us in the woods, but he saw my truck then because my truck was in that. When we got back to the truck, the area they went to because they shut up after they got in the woods 100 that you know he gobbled one or two more times and he did sound closer. I don't even think you can hear it on the camera, it's not even on video or something maybe.
Speaker 1:But I was trying to think of how we can turn our bodies to our wrong side shoulder, because we're both right-handed in case he did, you know, just get in the woods and walk up and I felt like he was going to at one point. And then when I got to the truck, I kind of looked in there and there was one good lane that I felt like he tried to get to and once he got on that lane to walk up and come back on the backside of me, that's what would have probably happened, which I mean I'm not saying that is what happened, but that was one of the you failed, right. Yeah, it didn't work. I thought you killed that one. I was okay with it. You killed one that happened to me which I did have to keep that one gobbling to keep tabs on him because he was coming quick. The one I did kill, right, I had to keep calling to him strictly to hope and pray that I can keep up with him. Get set down in time. I mean, I killed him in like six minutes from the time I first heard him tonight. You know which. That was a shift of luck.
Speaker 1:Anyways, yeah, it was comical, though A lot of ways to get a cat, but a lot of times in this arena it's wrong. It's the wrong way. I mean, that's the beauty in turkey hunting is you can do everything 100% right and do it perfect. That don't mean it's going to work. That's awesome to me. That's the beauty of it. You can be the best and do everything right and not want to change anything at all, and it's still not working. You just got out turkey. It's part of it and it's the best part of it in my book.
Speaker 1:But I don't know what you want to say. It's going to end and it depends. Oh, yeah, but it was a little funny note of driving home from Nashville. I don't know if I sent you this little Snapchat or not, but Bronco got in front of me and it said it depends on the tag and I said that's fitting and it obviously wasn't a tag. It was like it had a pink ring around its cheek. I was like obviously probably not a turkey hunter, but I was like boy, it was just one of those like icing on the cake to NWTF. It all depends, everything depends, on uncontrollables. Just a little reminder.
Speaker 1:So if you're at the NWTF convention and you stop buying solids, we certainly appreciate it, and I appreciate the feedback on the podcast too. If I had a dollar for every time somebody mentioned the podcast, we probably could have paid for the whole hotel or fuel back or something of the nature. I'm going to go out on a limb here and I hope you don't take this the wrong way. I think we're a little bigger of a deal than I thought. I kind of felt a little bit Because I don't see the. I just see numbers and stuff.
Speaker 1:But put those numbers in a room full of 100,000. There's a lot of them. A of 100,000. That's a lot of them, a lot of them, yeah, so thank y'all for that. There was a whole lot of Spring Legion. Oh yeah, it was covered up. I mean I started just talking to everyone. I saw at first and I'm like daggum, it, yeah, there's a lot, you know, it's everywhere. Just, I mean. Just I mean surreal to see. Yeah, I mean because we were recording this full circle moment back into where these podcasts first started. You know, we just pulled this thing out of the truck and threw it on the kitchen table. That is what we used to do, you know, four years ago, when we first started doing podcasts, and I mean nine to 11 people listened to it maybe a week. Yeah, and it's multi, multi thousands, yeah. And see, I don't even get to see the numbers, I do. You're the only one with the login of the charts. There's a whole lot, um, yeah, I know, and it I was a little, I don't know, uh, overwhelmed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I guess, surreal, surreal, feeling like imposter syndrome was right, I should not be here, right, you know, next to these people who I look up to so much, right, and and folks are, are influenced by what I do and say it doesn't, it doesn't feel normal, because I mean you're a normal guy and we are, I mean, right, it is odd, I'm not gonna lie to y'all, it's very odd, it's just. Yeah, I just I want to make sure to not say a big thank you to y'all. Yeah, you know, because y'all do run this, yeah, yeah, way more than we do. It wouldn't be if it weren't for y'all, I promise you that. And probably asleep, honestly, you know, I probably would be too. I would have eaten supper tonight and lunch, yeah, today, but we haven't stopped, um, but it's, it's worth it. It's worth every freaking second to do this and and it might not be as glamorous as y'all think Right, it's a lot of the work, is a lot more than a lot of folks think.
Speaker 1:It's almost like you're embarrassed to say how much work goes into stuff, right, because of I mean, if you break it down by the hour, I work like a 15 hour day every day at seven dollars an hour kind of deal, you know, yeah, and then a lot of times, just the 20 hour days are overtime for free. Yeah, if you break it down to the money and time and effort spent into to doing this and then just pretty much keep the ball rolling as all the money goes to it goes back into doing more and more and more and more and more. It don't go in my pocket, I promise you. That Turn is absolutely. A lot of chances have been taken, yeah, and a lot of them have failed, and I'm open about failure. Oh, yeah, you know I've failed at a lot of ideas. A lot of things have flopped completely of ideas. A lot of things have flopped completely.
Speaker 1:Um, chase knows that I didn't want to number half the books. I was like what if they don't? What if they don't sell? Right, then what are we gonna do? You know what if 100 people don't want this book? I just, I literally spent I mean hours and hours and I mean weeks making you know. It wasn't like I just tossed both pdfs together and and said here's a combo copy. I wanted to be something special. I had to design all of it and reformat everything, re-upload it and do everything you know as far as that goes, to put them on Amazon, to get the copies to get to y'all. It's been a several-month ongoing thing and I'm like what if 100 people don't want it? Yep, but what if they do? And I'm not prepared? So I mean, that's kind of the question I have to ask myself Like what if they do continue to support you? What if they do? You know, like it, right? So the number one new release in hunting yeah, on Amazon, best seller, best seller 10, 15 categories, probably, hey, count, which is awesome. I mean, turkey hunting is through and through. You know, no matter the median.
Speaker 1:I feel like a big thank you to y'all is what we're trying to say, right? Yeah, our biggest appreciation possible. Yeah, from my family too, from my daughters. Yeah, you know, they wouldn't have food on the table if it wasn't for y'all. Right, we wouldn't have roofs over our head if it wasn't for y'all. Yeah, and so I know I appreciate that, but it's kind of all we can probably get out, you know, in a line of folks. But to everyone who did swing by and express their appreciation for the time and effort we put into Spring Legion and the podcast and books and everything and all the way down to creating new gear, it's pretty affordable, you know, I mean, it's not gonna break your bank to do it. And um, yeah, I mean sincerely, we appreciate that um goes a long way. Yeah, and even the ones that didn't bring up the podcast, yeah, equal thank you to you.
Speaker 1:It's not just appreciate the recognition, it's appreciate all of y'all. You know, in every way, if you bought a pair of gloves or you know a full get up, if you bought one t-shirt or one decal, you ain't even got to buy it. Yeah, you know, if you're listening to this podcast, you supported us in some way, form or fashion. You know, that's what I'm trying to say. Ain't no money involved, um, but that'll, that'll take us in next week, I'm sure Just wanted to hop on this thing.
Speaker 1:We promised y'all we'd do this every week. Even if it is late, even if we are tired, we're going to do it and, not to be mistaken, we enjoy doing them Absolutely. Next week we're going to be in a little better of a mood doing them, I'd imagine. I hope so, and then the next week we're probably really going to be in a good mood because there's going to be turkey season somewhere. Yeah, which is getting a little, a little dicey.
Speaker 1:Yeah, buzzard, your stomach just dropped a little bit more. You remember what time of year? Because I forgot all about it. It just hit me. Nwtf is over. It's time to go to some turkeys. The switch is smoking, smoking, and I'm refusing to let it flip towards hunting because then all the business stuff goes. You know what might be a little late in the morning, um, yeah, appreciate y'all listening. We're gonna catch you next week. We already went over time. Thanks again for listening to spring legend podcast. Realism is all that matters in the spring turkey woods and the guys over at houndstooth build their turkey calls with the consistent realism as a number one priority. Cut, stretch and press right down the road in tuscaloosa, alabama, a houndstooth turkey call has become a familiar addition to a many a turkey vest across the southeast. Learn more about a variety of friction locator mouth calls today at houndstooth game callscom and be sure to use our special discount code slp25 at checkout for 15 off your next round of houndstooth Turkey Calls.
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