The Spring Legion Podcast
Welcome to a year-round discussion on the wild turkey and those who hunt them. Hosted by Hunter Farrior, founder of Spring Legion and author of Ballad of a Turkey Hunter, the weekly podcast is geared for all outdoor communities and dives deeper than the usual tactics and calling tips. Holding true to the brand, topics are built upon respecting the heritage and challenges of hunting, with a never-ending appreciation for all that the spring season provides. Enjoy insight from special guests like Dave Owens of Pinhoti Project, Cuz Strickland of Mossy Oak, our friends at NWTF and Muscadine Bloodline, and so many more widely known for their impact in the turkey hunting community, as well as the deer, duck, and waterfowl realm, who exhibit the obsession of which only a real turkey hunter may truly understand. Thanks for listening.
The Spring Legion Podcast
Hunting Mean Old Bottomland Turkeys on the Big Black River
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Hosts Hunter and Chase Farrior tell the story of our latest hunt to be uploaded onto our YouTube channel, which was an entire day spent between the pines and river bottoms of Mississippi.
Whether a front row seat to real hen calling and jakes hammering at 15 yards, or the afternoon fiasco Hunter and Sills found themselves in, we've got plenty to unpack in this episode.
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Speaker 1:Hi y'all, welcome back to another episode of the Spring Leisure Podcast. My name is Hunter Ferrier joining you back to the usual co-host, chase Ferrier, today and got a cool one. I'm going to tell a story that we thought we had told but realized after further digging that we hadn't, and we're going to dive kind of straight into it right after we run through a couple of quick updates and stuff like that. But Chase is coming in fresh from. Is this the deer duck hunt finale?
Speaker 2:Yes, so you done Last go around, yep.
Speaker 1:Well, how did it go? Because you've been thinking about this place for a long time. It took many trips up there, got to see a lot of cool stuff, did a lot of habitat work.
Speaker 2:I know this summer right right, this place, me and jeremy, can you know, have.
Speaker 2:It's a permission spot yeah but it's a big big place. We uh we do a lot of work on it. We go up there weekend trips only pretty much every chance we can um, but yeah did a lot of habitat work to it, all kind of rearranging whatnot. Over the year and a half we've had it um, but it's it's pretty dialed in right now. Um saw like 23 deer yesterday afternoon. Me and him sat together from lunch till dark. Um ended up. He shot a pig.
Speaker 2:Um, we've had hogs come in in the last few months and they they seem to like the place and stay and uh, multiply yeah there was about it was two sows came in with two, um, I guess two litters or whatever you want to say, but it was like 20 piglets really and they came out like his direct side and the way we were set up in this shooting house. We couldn't both get out of one window it's the narrow window and, um, we were trying to let them ease to where we could shoot both of them and they they smelled a rat pretty quick and I just said go ahead, you know, get at least one right.
Speaker 2:One's better than none. So, um, then we, uh, we've, uh, we duck hunt up there a little bit. Um, the landowner likes to duck hunt so it's kind of when we can, probably the last weekend we get to duck hunt. So, uh, this weekend we found them on a little sliver creek that's on the edge of the property, and I was deer hunting down there the first morning and called jeremy was like get out of the woods.
Speaker 2:When we got them, you know, yeah come on, everything was iced up and it was just a little small pocket ankle deep water um about a 40 yard strip and they kept open or something and uh, yeah, which we got out there late, but right did well with it, so it's fun um, that sounds good, but um, back to, uh, trapping.
Speaker 1:Trapping season is going to be able to fill the kind of mend, the gap between the, the winter hunting, and the, the holy grail of outdoors.
Speaker 2:Right, right, which spring turkey season, obviously, but um, which I've been getting them together, all the traps, yeah, um, wrangled up and found and cleaned up. You know, some of them still got mud and stuff.
Speaker 1:That's the hard part finding both or all parts to right. They all piece back together between chains and chain stakes and whatnot.
Speaker 1:But uh, and and, and I know I've went and grabbed a few from your house and then brought them back here and then deployed a couple and then forgot about those and then found some more that weren't used. So I just kind of added those back and now you know, yeah, I don't know how many we got, probably got more traps, we got coons, honestly, but I've roughly got 20 25 dog proofs and a handful of like you know, regular foot trap which we missed a very good opportunity with break being off for, uh, christmas.
Speaker 1:He's still in college, so he had plenty of time to go run a bunch of them and I suppose the original reason I went was to get them together to drop off with him. And I think he shot a deer that day or something and I wound up forgetting all about him. But no, it's easing on in. I know it's in people's minds because we see it pretty blatantly on social medias and stuff. Folks, those switches are starting to heat up. If that actually flipped you out there, you know kind of fingers on the trigger kind of deal, which I don't. I tried to almost.
Speaker 1:I used to have a little book that I would just kind of log a bunch of things in, and one of the things I would log would be when that switch flipped, and a lot of times it was the latter part of january and I think the other day, um editing one of our youtube videos. It wasn't gobbling, it was hearing a turkey spit and it wasn't like. I do see. You know reels and tiktok stuff like that of turkeys drumming and which is cool, but like when you hear one spit it's kind of those. Those aren't the pretty clips necessarily all the time, so it's just one of those sounds you only hear in you know, up close and personal with a goblin. I heard that and I was like, ooh, that kind of might have tipped me over the edge right there, just hearing that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, which I saw a clip the other day of that. Or it may have been that video or something, I don't know, but I agree with you that. Or it may have been that video or something, I don't know but it I agree with you. Right, the, the when you hear one spit or you know kind of drum, which that new video we just released up was watching all the way over here.
Speaker 1:We'll go to it, yeah um, but before we dive into the story of that one, I wanted to knock these updates out of the way about forgot about them. A couple deals we want to let y'all know about going on at the on the website sprintleisurecom free uh half mask with a pair of pants and, um, those, those face masks, been gotten gotten some good reviews from folks who kind of get it kind of like oh okay, this is some added value to them. With being double-sided print, um, you know a lot of a lot of stuff you'll get has a white background, too light, and if you have a 360 degree garment that means you know there's a good chance some of that white's going to be flipped up and stuff. So we made sure that our face masks were double sided print and then that elastic only on the back, so it's kind of a no rise feature, so it's not gonna get your eyes. Those are free if you buy a pair of the new uh turkey hunting two pants, which are also doing very well, and then, um, if you buy a pair of the new turkey hunting 2 pants, which are also doing very well, and then if you buy a pair of gaiters. I think it's through the end of the month, so this might be.
Speaker 1:I was last week to chime in on this half off some of these new hats. We got six new turkey hunting hats. We got between six panel, five panel, solid back, mesh back, four-way stretch material like our pants are made out of. Those are doing really good. And and then some just straight-up twill cotton, 100% cotton, front panel ones. Those are half off if you buy a pair of Gators, any color, loading green leaf, original bottom lane, new bottom lane, all that stuff, yada, yada.
Speaker 1:Also, we've got some gloves coming in. We're going to hold off until NWTF convention to get those out and there's actually a little special for them at the convention. If you are attending it. I think we're going to do a little deal. If you're wearing Spring Legion to the convention itself, you get a free pair of gloves, kind of regardless. So swing by the booth If you are there. If you're wearing a hat and shirt it doesn't have to be a new one or something like that Heck, you'd be wearing these jackets, a hoodie you can walk around in a pair of gaiters if you want to, or a pair of pants, I guess technically Really anything If you're wearing.
Speaker 1:Spring Legion to the actual convention in Nashville here in a couple weeks. Swing by and grab a pair of free gloves. If the gloves ain't here in time for any reason I hate promising stuff that I'm not touching physically we'll swap that out with a free face mask or something like that. We'll make it of equal value there. Um, books have restocked. I know the paperbacks have restocked on the website. Any give us remorn in the battle of a turkey hunter and the hardback should be restocking pretty soon. And then I'll be getting the uh, the first copies of the new combination, the special edition combination copy of both books. It's coming in right after the hardback's get here. So then we'll get town on sorting them. Got some limited edition dust jacket that'll go on. The first 100 they're going to be marked 1 through 100 and of the actual first 100 prints of the book ever and those will be on sale as a special limited edition first run of 100 copy at NWTF.
Speaker 1:Y'all have to stay tuned on how we're going to kind of go about that, because you know I don't want to get there and there be 100 people in line opening, you know, as soon as the gates open.
Speaker 1:I don't know that it will be, I'm just saying and all 100 are gone and then folks were looking forward to it on day two or something like that. So I might split it up and do you know 30 of each day or something like that, and then we'll do something special for 10 of them. But y'all stay tuned for that. I got to think on that. I don't want to promise you nothing but they're, uh, should be pretty good, so good, a good gift of good, especially if you don't. If you don't have one of the other books, go ahead and get this one, because it's kind of a. It's the, the non special edition. You know collector's copy. Those first 100, the regular kind is. Both of them have been, have gone through the red pen edits that they need to go through. So that's a. You know, as the author of them, I want y'all to read the better, more legibly written ones obviously.
Speaker 1:So you don't think it's much crap, but I don't. You know, I don't have much say in what you think about it. That's up to you. All I can do is put it on the paper. But we'll have all those there, I'll be there signing them. All I can do is put it on the paper, but we'll have all those there, I'll be there signing them. We'll have a bunch of cool stuff there. We're going to hit some restock buttons on the tees that are done well and some of the casual hats, and we'll have deals.
Speaker 1:I don't know what they are. I'm not going to tell you what they are because I don't know. I've got to sit down and think on some things casual wear-wise that we can kind of mark down and stuff like that. And I know we're going to have some special guests hopefully planning to at least attend the booth on some of the days, and so it's about time to get packing up for it. I do know that. I know our buddies at Mossy Oak are going to be releasing a bunch of cool stuff too. I've heard, talked to them a little bit about it and I just know what's happening. I don't know many details and if I did, I wouldn't I wouldn't spill them here, you know definitely.
Speaker 1:Um, but I saw something jason hart was mentioning it at the uh shot show or whatever's going on was mentioning that kind of confirmed that it is happening. I didn't, I didn't even want to mention that they are releasing anything, or, you know, when I say releasing, I don't, I think folks have Fox vest as the, as the, the standard. You know, I don't think there's going to be a line going out on the Broadway for it, but but it's some stuff that pretty cool. Yeah, you don't like so.
Speaker 1:I can promise you that I'm gonna like, I'm gonna buy, yeah, um, and and as soon as they they really they talk about it, I'll mention it. But yep, that, and then, uh, what? They got that turkey tailgate march 8th. I look forward to that. But we did get video number one up, as you mentioned earlier. Yep, so, and that's the.
Speaker 1:That's the hunt that we weren't sure if we talked about. I had been thinking we had and we hadn't, um. So if y'all, if y'all haven't yet, which whatever, we're recording this on sunday. If you, um, if you're listening to this on monday, upon release, y'all be sure to go watch that video, because um put a lot of hours into editing that one. It's not going to look like it, no, but I did because we had multiple, multiple cameras three or four eventually by the end of it because we spent all day in the you know the big black river bottoms right, went from the pines kind of that are away from the bottom, and then then gradually found our way down into the bottom with a sure enough swamp gobbler river bottom. You know, long beard, a mean looking one, um, but uh but uh but it's on the YouTube.
Speaker 1:Y'all be sure to go check it out. And then we are doing a giveaway. Um, that will be announced. I mean, this week is going on and, um, if you, if you follow the YouTube channel and you uh, and you share something about that video to your store, you can film it on your phone in your living room and tag us. You can share it, share a link to it, or something like that.
Speaker 1:Just make sure you tag us so we see it yeah we'll pick someone who does that this week and um, and we can't verify who follows us now. I did figure that out oh, you did we ran a youtube giveaway one time and I got here and went to figure it out and didn't know how I was like well, we're just gonna pick somebody who commented yeah, but I do know.
Speaker 1:I can see that now, um, and it shows by day, you know. So, like the last seven days, I'll look at and see who's an you know, new, new follower, new subscriber, whatever they call them, and pick someone that subscribes to it and has shared a post about it, um, and they'll get a free pair of gators. All you gotta do is, you know, email us and or dm us and we'll get them to. You might throw in a few extra things. So we got a bunch of little extra things coming in.
Speaker 1:Want to get them in the hands of folks, but the hunt itself. Let's see, we started. We started this was March 23rd, because I remember having to figure that out. It took me a long time to figure out what the date was and then any video after this. I ain't getting a date put on it. I know that much, because the longest was to figure out what in the heck day. We went hunting Because I got kind of consumed by that part. We went in there and we hadn't I'd listened at this property place that we got seals and eiken on it, and I don't think I'd listened at this property place that we got seals and knocking on it, and I don't think I'd listened. Here, though I'd listened at other places and I hadn't heard one that I know of.
Speaker 2:I think didn't all three of us go up there and listen? Yeah, we did, we dropped, should I have dropped me off, dropped seals off and you went down the road or something like that, and Mason was somewhere on the other side.
Speaker 1:That's what it was, and I don't know if any of us heard one. I saw a scratch in where I was standing next to the daggum blacktop.
Speaker 2:I walked up 15 feet and I was like oh Lord, there's a scratch in all over here.
Speaker 1:That might have been the weekend prior or something like that, but we went in there and the place we were hunting it's not an obvious where they're going to be there's a creek running through a bunch of pines and they're going to go from one to the other kind of deal. It wound up not being the bottom Seals and I wound up getting on one later on in the day. This was a legitimate little creek bottom but we got pretty tight on them on the roost.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you remember that part I didn't remember that until I pre-watched the video.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we were.
Speaker 1:We were up close and personal. That's first. No, I wasn't the first sit. I think I shot one with logan the day or two before that, but I'm still rusty in my my depth perception.
Speaker 2:You know how it is every year well, I mean a lot of time you got to remember. A lot of the birds we get on is after they've fallen down, or or least me, you know. So I kind of the first few. Whenever there's not leaves on the trees, I get a little. I'm like the last time I did this I could get right under them with the leaves on the trees. You know, you kind of got to remind yourself about halfway up there like, hey, I better watch myself a little bit closer.
Speaker 1:That's a good point, yeah, and I think there, I remember seeing in there. You told me he's hey, yeah, hold on to get real close.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he can see us here, me getting real close is one thing, getting three people real close is another thing I gotta remember to look back and go hey, yeah, no, that is a good tree, but you better find two more in these next three steps or we're gonna get in the bind. Um, but they, they, um, and I and and back. You find so many and I'm such a critical-minded person, especially to myself, I mean I'll cuss myself over stuff that didn't even really happen and almost like hypothetically Right. But looking back it's almost like did you forget? That might be a different turkey, because we were on one that was very, very close, if I remember correctly, did it fly down? He down, he responded, you know, gobbled at it. I shut it off and it. It really wasn't that long until we heard one goblin. I think one of y'all said you saw him fly, that you can see it in the video.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty positive that I'm watching. Yeah, there's a little corner of him really right there, just until he gets behind the line of trees, because you can see, like the sky behind the trees, and he I mean he was in sight of us. Really I still thought he saw him two or three times.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I remember that. And then, sure enough, one pitches from right where he thought he saw it. That makes me feel better. I'm like I didn't know that was a different turkey. You know, I just kind of got them, like you know.
Speaker 2:I mean I didn't go back and watch the video that close yet, but I'm pretty positive. I remember thinking about it and like oh yeah, I saw him through the viewfinder when I was filming.
Speaker 1:Well, we wound up getting off this turkey. It could have been the same turkey, anything going over there, but no, this is what I was thinking too. Yeah, we get in there and long story short, we cross the creek, we do all this stuff, and when he gobbles that time on the ground it's far, I'm like was that a?
Speaker 1:gobble Right and y'all confirm. You know that was a gobble. I wailed on it one time with the call and he responded and then I was like and then I think from our tree could hear hens walking that way between us and that gobble. Shortly after that gobble I know we better get on the horse you know because we on the wrong end and they're all moving the other way. So we it took as long as I'm going to do, because there was a creek, an active creek a short enough.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, big one 20 foot cliffs on each side oh yeah, if not more, and um got across them, got over there and and we get tied up with Jake's. But when we're there, remember, we hear one gobble to the left, which would have been the direction. Y'all said that one flew Probably. Yeah, so that was. I don't think we were hunting Jake's underneath him. The one on the roost I don't think was a Jake. When I went back and looked at it I think that was the other one. He got there.
Speaker 2:He probably was the one who gobbled, and that might have been the first. The jakes gobbled when we were there.
Speaker 1:It's a very good chance. Yeah, um, because we went on the way there and we're buying interstate. Oh yeah, it's hard to hear things. Yeah, I will cuss the wind all day long. I would rather hunt in 12 inches of snow a a tsunami anything but wind. I hate wind, I hate just anything that just alters the sound.
Speaker 2:And an interstate is also just as bad.
Speaker 1:Man, it's just as bad. And then I can hear these hens and, mind you, we've still got the little rust to knock off. I'm like, here are the hens. And combine it with a muffled interstate nearby.
Speaker 1:I'm like we either about to be on them or we're still 400 yards away, I have no idea, you know. And we're going up there and we find a little spot. We actually just crouched down behind it, yeah, because one of them gobbled right there. Right there, oh gosh, we were just kind of getting our bearings straight. And one guy, when I kind of looked back, I'm like that ain't far.
Speaker 2:We need to get on the ground, he gobbled.
Speaker 1:Right after that I went yeah, that ain't far. Yeah, Just pretty much. Just, I'm just getting behind y'all now at this point so Chase can film and Seals can shoot.
Speaker 2:I ended up on the ground Like as I was squatting down.
Speaker 1:I saw a corner of a span or something I'm like oh if we'd have just stared in the woods as soon as we got there, we'd have seen them. It's almost kind of like how in the world did how did they not see Exactly?
Speaker 2:It was the main thing Um which I guess you know it ended up being Jake's.
Speaker 1:um two calls and they were there, man they were there.
Speaker 2:I mean, six steps hammering the hands came in, yeah, and I'm like, oh yeah, this is awesome, yeah, it was cool. I mean I'm like, oh, man, which I will say this. Um, like that first clip, I watched it on my phone coming over here just the 20 minute ride over here and, um, I just got into the part where the jakes get up there right up tight with us and you can hear the. You can kind of hear the drum and if you play it over like, uh, truck speakers yeah, if you play in your truck.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was sitting there and I wasn't necessarily paying, I was just kind of listening to it just kind of you know seeing your edit of it and uh, all of a sudden boom and I'm like shoot yeah that kind of flipped, that switch on right, even though it was a notch, a little bit, but um, but yeah, if you, if you go listen to some of these and I've always done this, other people's videos way before we started making them was if one was closed, I'd go like plug it in my aux cord you know, and freaking 94 fleet side Chevrolet. I had and um and and playing I had to call Nick Mitchell up. Hey, remember them kicker tens you had in the back you still got them.
Speaker 1:Let's listen to this turkey video found on the internet and we just sit there and listen to it Like that's awesome man.
Speaker 2:That's awesome. I've done it too.
Speaker 1:Um but um, but you know I've done it too um but um, but yeah, they were close and they um and got some really good footages of natural turkey sounds, those hens clucking and purring like actual purrs, and this is what I study in it and and I did this a long time ago and it was with seals it was. It was where logan cook lives now.
Speaker 1:Really, yeah, the story I'm about to tell you very ironically but me and Seals were hunting there before Logan knew it existed and got underneath a gobbler and I was too far from my gun to grab. I mean I made one and actually when it flew down and I've done this a time or two after that when they fly down, a lot of times a gobbler almost looks like he's falling, just glidesides and he'll, you know, um, fly out or or something like that, but a gobbler just kind of just there's one big whoop, yeah, and I mean when they do that if you can make your lunge, if it's within an arm's reach, you got it.
Speaker 1:You know, because his whole world's spinning obviously, so he the chances of him, you know, picking up on you're a little slimmer than they're ever going to be in the tree or on the ground, Did that, grabbed the gun and then I could not tell if it was a freaking Jake or a Longbeard. He faced right at me and then just kind of put his head down and just swiveled and I'm like that was my chance.
Speaker 1:I just needed to see. I could have shot him a thousand times. He stood there, but he did not fly down until this end, and but he did not fly down until this end. And me and Seals are surrounded by hands. I can kind of see him above my head and he's faced the other way, and we were not ready to tie our shoes or something when this bird sounded off and I remember him telling me he was like airplanes.
Speaker 1:These hands were just like spiraling, like a tornado like all around him, like it was a big opening area behind us oh okay, and that's where they were flying to, but they were kind of coming from the woodworks. They all weren't in the same tree, they were just kind of like and landed in the same me and gary did it one time. Um, about three or four years ago. They did the same thing very high in the air, flew out almost over the trees and then landed like they were up in the woods and flew over the trees and then landed in the opening.
Speaker 1:That's what they were doing um, but he did not get on the ground until his hand called. She did four notes in her yoke and I've paid attention to that for a while now. Just, you know, you know, you know, that was the one. Once I got that in my mind, you know, I started. I'm going to start counting these son of guns, you know. And sure enough, a little while later, this ain't foolproof for all the time, by no means. But You've noticed, at a time is kind of when she got close they flew down, kind of deal. So I'm almost doing that. But so when we get hens nearby, I'm over there with a daggone notepad jotting stuff down, you know do they club first?
Speaker 1:they purr first? Do they do this or that? When they're, when they're cutting usually if it's 10 to 14 cuts, is there. You know, they're kind of pissed off, usually moving all right, they're standing there. They don't usually do the very long, it's just the three or four right, but if they're doing the 10 to 14 they're, they're looking, they're actively walking you know looking um, so I I just analyze all that stuff and and it's all theory.
Speaker 1:None of it can be right. I mean, somebody's gonna send me a video of a hen cutting 21 times, standing, freaking. Still I'm like, well, that mean, that's why I put that there, like not all the time, but that's just what I've learned and I could be wrong in it. Also, I'm not scared to admit that, um, but we had them close and just watch them scratch. You know, that's very valuable, um. And then, of course, two hours later I'm over there like 17 scratch cadence, like you know. It's just like you just have one tell you exactly how many times to do it and you're still just just go down went out the window scrubbing the ground with your hand.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, but I mean it worked. But. But yeah, that's the stuff I make sure to include in the videos, because that's what I would. I would like to see is real turkey sounds. Real turkey calling. Real turkey. You know, walking sounds and stuff I mean, I study how a turkey walks as much as I do anything else.
Speaker 1:Topography is cool, you know, learning how they work, ridges and stuff, but like I don't want my feet to sound like a turkey if I'm walking way more than I want to be really, really, really good at calling you know um, it's just little things like that add up in a natural scenario, in a natural you know sequence of, you know sequence of events. So it was really cool.
Speaker 1:It wasn't cool for an hour and a half, but but we were able to get some cool stuff to put on the video, but I was getting a little impatient after a while Cause I'm I don't like Jake's, necessarily, I don't, I don't, I don't like knowing that they're there. It really boogers up kind of my thinking.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, if I do hear a goblin there, again I'm like yeah, it probably ain't, you know, it's just, and those jakes will fool anybody there.
Speaker 1:Huge.
Speaker 2:yeah, you know the people that say, oh, that's a jake on the limb and stuff you can't always tell. I don't know if you can ever tell honestly.
Speaker 1:This video is really good because the turkey went on the street with an old joker. You can tell Old head just big. He weighed like 24 pounds.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, very big, just old. I mean he was old, right, I'm not going off like Spur, he had big Spurs. I don't know what they were, but you can tell. I mean I'm not going off like Spur, he had big Spurs. I don't know what they were, but I mean you could tell haggard-looking joker.
Speaker 2:And they're the ones with the, you know, the short choppy you know gobbles A lot of times, Not all the time, obviously.
Speaker 1:And a Jake will roll your freaking hat off. This one could control his volume. He sounded further, he sounded closer. You could tell emotion in his gobble way more. Jake's are like heck yeah, Every gobble heck yeah. You know, just like that's awesome, you know, just fired up, enthusiastic and just I'll gobble at that woodpecker until it stops, kind of deal. But them old ones, they'll gobble soft on you a time or two just to, and I think a lot of us. I don't want them four jakes coming over here.
Speaker 1:I would love it if they don't hear me. You know, um, and I guarantee that's why the one we were underneath shut up he just knew they were there. Yeah, he knew they were there um, but, um, but got, it got.
Speaker 2:Got to see that that was cool, yeah, um which, um, I'm trying to remember what else we did.
Speaker 1:We moved around a little um yeah, we went to check in all spots and then I had to leave for something.
Speaker 2:I had something planned at like 2 30 you had to leave, moved around a little. Yeah, we went to check in on spots. After that I had to leave for something.
Speaker 1:I had something planned at like 2.30 or something you had to leave at like 1, I remember.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so I had to get out of the woods by like 1 or noon or something so I didn't get the later half of the day. But you know it was a good. We did a lot in that time that I was there.
Speaker 1:We really did. We about had five different hunts going on at one time because we wound up trying to make a move on that other bird didn't come across it Never struck him back up.
Speaker 1:I don't think and we're on up in here pretty deep, yeah, you know. So there's a lot of spots we could, you know, veer and check and stuff on the way out, yeah, on our way around and out right and um, and then with our eyes too, there was, it was there was a ag field of some kind on one side of it, I believe they were able to get, but we couldn't go through the jigs because that's the last thing you want to do is call them back up and just have them over and over again, just fool you and freeze you, and you know you don't waste the morning.
Speaker 1:But you know, know what I mean. Get away from them, because they're going to come in.
Speaker 2:They're not difficult to convince and a lot of times Jakes will run off a long beard.
Speaker 1:That's the bad thing.
Speaker 2:Physically, you'll have him come in there at 60 yards or something like that and all of a sudden here comes 18 Jakes to run up in there.
Speaker 1:He's scared to gobble.
Speaker 1:anyway, he's just over dealing with them the whole time you can be very close to him and bump him and not know it, because he's not going to gobble until he sees the turkey, just because he don't want to deal with them as bad as we don't want to deal with them. It's illegal to kill Jakes in Mississippi, but I don't care where you are, I'm not a big fan of folks who kill Jake's period. Um, um, just don't, don't like it, don't see the point in it or you know excuses for it, all right. Um, that's kind of regardless, regardless of, I mean maybe first turkey yeah, yeah, I mean, I can understand that, but yeah, but other than that, I'm going if you're on your 14th go ahead and all right, let it.
Speaker 2:You know there's got to be another one you know um it's okay to let let the spike walk by, to shoot an eight point you know, I know you there ain't. No, that's the thing I love about turkey hunting is like they don't have number of points. Oh yeah, it's not about hey, I shot the bigger one or the other one.
Speaker 1:It's like, hey, I shot a turkey, that wasn't a jake all right, yeah, long beard, big thumbs up, kind of the only two.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um which you know to each their own. You know it's kind of divide them by the only two. Yeah, which you know To each their own, to each their own, you know it's kind of like.
Speaker 1:I mean you're killing them at the easiest point. You can kill them Right, you know it's kind of.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know you can kill a lot of them. That's the bad. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, you can wind up putting a population because of it because you're not exploiting or taking advantage of them, but at the same time, you're kind of like, well, yeah, a year, a year from now, you're not gonna, you're not gonna call up four and shoot all four, right, you know, throughout the season, um, but it is what it is and it's just my cup of tea.
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Speaker 2:Yeah, and we got hung up for a while doing that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, some lady we tried to do a favor, yeah, which was like move a chair from the garage to her living room and we got hung up for a while doing that yeah some lady.
Speaker 2:we tried to do a favor, yeah, which was like move a chair from the garage to her living room, and then it turned into like this chair was in the garage, that was in an enclosed trailer, that was backed into the garage where you couldn't get the gate open.
Speaker 1:It was a whole vehicle. We had to climb through a mountain and stuff to get in, yeah, and then we had to back out of it over. It was a whole. We had to climb through a mountain and stuff to get in, and then we had to Back out of it. Yeah, it took longer than we thought.
Speaker 2:Way longer.
Speaker 1:It was kind of like she offered. She gave us a tip of her knowledge of a turkey or a turkey. Somewhere she's like they're always over there. I'm like huh. It might be worth it know where you saw that turkey on tuesday yeah, um, and if you have permission to hunt it, right, if we could maybe borrow that permission for a little while. Um, because she was actually a younger lady. She wasn't like a no, it wasn't like door knocking. We just happened to pass her right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um I think we were pulled off at a stop sign trying to figure out which which section of the property we wanted to go to, and she pulled up. She was like y'all look like some young strapping man, I think she was.
Speaker 1:She was looking for help.
Speaker 2:Like we were looking for help too, yeah she's like can y'all come down here real quick, won't take a minute. And like, she initiated it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, sure, whatever this could be gold, but wasn't um. It was not not matt helping her, I'm just no, yeah it wasn't, we didn't. Either didn't find a turkey, or it didn't come to creation.
Speaker 2:I mean, I don't think we were missing out on much at that point, right Either it was 24-mile-an-hour winds at noon, you know.
Speaker 1:And then you get out of Dodge and Seals and I went and we are deadbeat, tired. I say it every year I need to get to moving a little more Before the season, right, because that first week of March I ain't got it, I ain't 20, no more Me. Neither I'm going to do it, but I'm going to hurt. I'm not going to not go, it's just my mind out, thinks my body for a little while, yes, and then after I'm like, hmm, that is not comfortable getting out of this chair now you know for the next three or four days, until you know April's around and I'm smooth sailing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what's the roughest part is doing it going really hard like that one day and then having to do it four more days in a row because you're still getting beat, creaking and popping.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no matter how a turkey walks, it don't walk like popping kneecaps, like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, hunched up st how a turkey walks. Don't walk like popping kneecaps like that. Yeah, oh, hunt steps stumbling through the woods trying to make your knees work.
Speaker 1:You know then the whole thing you're trying to get out of creek. You gotta like get your body moving back and forth, and just you know almost swing yourself out of there yeah um, because last time I did this I was pretty agile. Well, that was the end of may, when you've been doing this in mountains and all over the place, and you know kind of got accustomed to it.
Speaker 2:But and the worst is after a day of that and you have, like your foot go to sleep or something gosh well, yeah, that's whenever I'm. I'm almost like I'm done for the day. You know, like I'll draw the light, wait when my foot goes to sleep. Normally, if my foot goes to sleep, from about my bottom rib bone down goes to sleep and I'll be stuck there I've got.
Speaker 1:I think I have a condition because I mean I, my feet will go to sleep and all that stuff. It's almost like my mind passes it. I don't even it doesn't register that hey, you're in a, you're in a bind, you're hurting, you know you know, oh, I'll let it go, but they don't even register and I'll just think like, oh yeah, it is sleep, oh yeah, I cannot feel ways down, but I'm just focusing like, and I just I don't move, I could change I could fix it, but I still don't.
Speaker 1:And then and then time comes to move, move and I can't.
Speaker 2:That's, that's what I'm saying. Like that's whenever you really realize how wore out your body is is when you you're dragging your left. Leg down the hill trying to hobble and get to this next log so you can hunt this turkey right.
Speaker 1:Seals and I are both physically defeated and defeated by turkeys. At this point it's about, I don't know, 1 o'clock, 2 o'clock probably, and we head over to the Big Black River bottom, which I don't know which parts, but I know that it's part of the open season deal, right? So, um, and I think george has been getting ready some of it ready to sell and stuff like that. So anybody looking, you know, holler at them. Um, I don't know when that's going to hit market or anything, so I don't want to mess up and say something wrong.
Speaker 1:But, um, but uh, we're hobbling down this, this, uh, power line. I don't know if it's a power line or gas line, but we're hobbling down this power line. I don't know if it's a power line or a gas line, but we're hobbling down this big lane into the bottom bottom of both sides, pretty much rivers at the end of it and it either had been flooded or water was working its way up. I do not remember, but this was the first time we'd kind of seen the place having having water patches.
Speaker 1:You know the patch of water that'll hold um can really booger up some logistics oh yeah 100 from a turkey getting to point a to point b and then hang them up. More than anything, you know, not, not something you did, it's just they can't get around it, don't want to get around it, it's one little sliver of water or puddle or whatever you'll call it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it'll. It'll just kind of cut them off, cut off their, their plans, just as much as cut off your plans. And uh, we're actually sitting down and I you can't tell in the video how to cut it out, because it was just a bunch of nothing and moving around, um, but seals and I sat down before we heard a gobble. Okay, it looks like we heard a goblin sat down, but we heard we were sitting down when we heard the gobble.
Speaker 1:We were just sitting there, yeah, just just kind of breathing for a second, and we just took about an hour and a half break, and now we walk 200 yards. I'm like you want to take another break yeah I'm like, yeah, actually kind of, you know we can sit here and just wail on it. We didn't know we were getting into, we hadn't hunted there yet, right and um, I broke out that really loud box call. I got got to wail underneath a couple times after.
Speaker 1:You know, work your way up you don't want to start with that, necessarily make sure 180 yards behind you first. Uh, kind of verified that and then got to chopping on that box call and me and him went back and forth wondering if it was a gobble. He might have told this story, I think, back on a prior podcast from this point, wasn't sure whether or not it was a gobble Confirmed, it was Confirmed. It was getting closer. We didn't move. We were like, well, let's see what happens. He gets up there, 200-ish, hangs up. It looks like we just kind of get up, get a move.
Speaker 1:But that joker sat there 45 minutes. We tried silence, we tried different calls, we tried moving. You know he wasn't budging. Yeah, and I could almost tell in his gobble like this turkey. Well, I can see what he's doing. He's doing from here to here and here to here and he's making a little triangle and I guarantee he's probably by himself and I think there might have been two gobbles, but I think it was the same one just turning in that water. You know, kind of it bounces stuff. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1:And yeah, he hung out there and I could tell there's a threshold of some kind out there. I never walked over there and confirmed what it could have been, but after we kind of snuck across the power line there and I eased up and grabbed my binoculars and I could see him, I told the seal I said Joker looks pretty mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can look at it in his eye and tell his nose is hanging real low and he's just in half strut and he's looking everywhere, just kind of got that. Look like you owe me money at all times he got that look like you owe me money at all times. And just dark black sheen to him, real metallic looking. I could see mud on him and on his feathers and I was like that joker ain't nice, he don't listen to.
Speaker 2:He don't play by the rules.
Speaker 1:Let them, j's come up in here and see what happens?
Speaker 1:He's not budging. He don't play by the rules. Let them, jakes, come up in here and see what happens. He's not budging Right. And he proceeded to be a pretty hard-headed, mean, stubborn, swamp-bottom gobbler. For another hour and a half or so he and I Seals and I were able to get a little closer, kind of just where he was at. I think there was something between us there's a lot of pile, meos and stuff like that that we could kind of utilize and and whatnot and and we were able to kind of get to a knoll by chance. I think he moved at the time we were moving. I remember looking up going, uh-oh, he ain't there no more, and I don't know where he's at. And he gobbled pretty regular because we you know the last call we did was a while ago.
Speaker 1:He can probably hear some leaves and he, and it's pretty open so there's not hard to plan around. You know it's kind of you're, you're about to hang him up, regardless whether it be water or where you sit. There's not an option to really call him around.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he can see a long way there.
Speaker 1:It's not a bunch of junk, there is some patches of junk, so so we did our best to get that between us and him and might have shot ourself in the foot by doing that, because I think and I think Seals agreed once we got up that where he was posted up at the turkey was was about 40-ish instead of 50, 55.
Speaker 1:It's kind of like what we originally thought he strutted for a long time at about 65, and he worked his way to his log. That really trapped him down and you could almost just if he went and strutted. You see his tail fan If he was out strutting. You see his head. He's kind of just alternating back and forth and he'd just pop up here and pop up here. I never really saw him. I a daggum time with the camera. Oh gosh, my gosh. I know how to run a camera, yeah, but I ain't never ran one with a turkey within 40, 50 yards. I know he's looking at me and we're behind a knoll about shin high tops and anthill pretty much yeah and um, and I've got this daggum camera tripod and I think turkeys can see my thoughts.
Speaker 1:So I'm sitting here going like my gosh we've been hunting for 11 hours and I'm sitting here about to just ruin it, trying to get him on Degum camera. But it didn't matter, granted, he probably couldn't see the camera because he probably couldn't see him either. It looks like I'm a much worse cameraman, but I, with my eyes, I could not see this. Turkey, okay, and a lot of folks. I posted tiktok on this guy, like 80 000 views since, and a lot of them are coming. I see him. I see him right there. Oh yeah, I'm like where, because I couldn't see him here. You know it's and it's it's. It's really cool because it's literally what the epitome of hunting goes. This joker is 40 yards for a good 35 minutes Goblin.
Speaker 1:I mean you can hear him just dragging, I mean just everywhere you can hear the leaves just dragging behind his feet, his wings. Every time they just. And then he'd drum and you'd be like there, that joker's right there, but I can see right there and he ain't, and you don't know where he's at. I mean, there's times I'm looking way left, like is he just in my ears, playing on me, right?
Speaker 2:Is it bouncing off the tree?
Speaker 1:I'm sitting behind Right and I'm like something's going on and Seals does finally see him and I actually got a clip of it on the camera by accident where he was staying. I'm like that's where he was. Yeah, you know, um, he sits there and does this thing. He gobs hard too, very hard. I mean pissed off kind of gobbling, did we? I called one time there. I'm like I don't know what he's going, why he would walk over here. He can see it pretty good, but I did anyway that kind of got him riled up pretty good. Surely some silence might break him or something.
Speaker 1:Then about that time I think Seals is facing him pretty dead on. He did this and the only reason I know this is because Breck did it one time we were laying on our stomachs and I should have said it sooner. I didn't in real time, wasn't thinking about it. The same situation I have with Breck sooner, I didn't, you know, in real time, wasn't thinking about it but and it couldn't. The same situation, having break, real time, wasn't thinking about it, that he was, he was late, we're laying over, no right and, and I'm kind of back and I'm not shooting. So I'm back there able to fiddle around and stuff right and um, but both times kind of got in a bind because you're very immobile laying on top of a knoll.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, Like a sniper, would you know you don't want to like, out of instinct, do like.
Speaker 1:You know you would play in Cops and Robbers or something when you're a kid like lay on the knoll and use it as a rest, and you know you're kind of set and comfortable, but that really eliminates all hurdles at all you know you can kind of go left. You know two or three ticks at the clock, so you know, if you're faced at 12 you can probably you can handle up to 10, but nine is going to be tough. Now you know you're sitting on your butt. Seven o'clock is possible you can go all the way around.
Speaker 1:Nine is a chip shot. Um, even all the way up to two, three you can, you can shift, you can rotate, but hey, 1205 ain't even on the option, if you're if he does go a hair right than what you think. And, um, and we're kind of in our minds playing out which way this turkey could go, and it's very hard to do when you don't know where he's at you just know he's that direction.
Speaker 1:But I mean daggone, when you 40, 45 from him and you can hear him gobbling stuff, like you know, it's got to be on the other side of whatever that is. You know, I think I should be able to see him but I can't. So, just going off of that and we're kind of set up for him to shoot right there in front, and we kept the open area between us, turkey should get to the edge of something and we will have a shot. He just didn't you, he just didn't. You know why. He's still alive, probably Right, and he gobbles. He does that thing where they gobble three or four times right there, back to back to back to back. I'm like then I was like I'm about to scoop back and give you free range of motion, whichever way, because he's about to move. When they do that and they just pow, pow, pow.
Speaker 1:You know he's kind of like you hey, your last chance to speak up.
Speaker 2:I'm I'm moving, and whether it's towards you or not.
Speaker 1:I'm moving, not always, but a lot of times that's what they'll do. They don't if. If they haven't gobbled in a while and you hear a gobble and this happens a lot and you reposition that gobble a lot of times, that next guy won't eat there.
Speaker 2:That was his one letting you know I'm moving not come here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think I said and he gave a spring morning like they'll go, I would let you know. You know I'm on the way, but he don't tell you which way. You know he might be telling you to hurry up, I'm on the way and it's the other way, or stay put, I'm on the way and it's your way. That's a. That's what makes it fun, though. Yeah, um, so I'm, I'm in the process of of getting just I can't get on my, we can't get on our knees or anything because of you know we'll pop up, you'll see us. So I'm just kind of pushing myself back with butt of my gun, almost right, sliding down, sliding down and, um, to give him an area to pull his feet if he, if needed. We're trying to not tell him to get off of the knoll.
Speaker 1:Just use it as kind of a barricade-looking thing, hunker down the ball behind it, but at least you can un-ball and no sinners. I freaking said that I'm pushing myself back. He's kind of simultaneously coming back with me just to get his feet under him and stuff. And I see him, I'm not, and I think in the video I go oh Seals.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because we kind of didn't let our guard down, but we obviously shifted our focus to getting ready to see him. Right, and I see him and he had come around that log and I went oh yeah, you could have just flipped him right there you know, I'm like oh and he saw it too, like he looked at one oh you know kind of like, and.
Speaker 1:But at that time both of us thought that oh, he's around, he's, he's coming, you know, because he walked to this other little tree that we'd already kind of talked about at some point and I, nine times out of ten I thought turkey wasn't gonna walk right there. And then he's gonna walk right there. But he got behind that tree and then he didn't and and we're both kind of like hey, why, what in the world? He didn't see us. We froze, then they were stuck.
Speaker 1:But I mean, luckily I'm enough behind to know where I can. I've got the gun kind of down, you know, at my waist and I'm in this weird 45 degree angle of my body, not on my knees, not on my stomach. Seals is still kind of trapped almost. He's got stuff on his right and um, had the had the guy walk left or straight. Seals reflect him in two more steps. He just took only one more step and pivoted and so he did that and then I'm kind of thinking he might still come around in and stuff. But Seals was watching him pretty good and I had to take my eyes off him a time or two and I picked back up on him. But when I lifted back up, I looked and he ain't there, no, I picked my head back up and I do see him and I don't there. No, I pick my head back up and I do see him, and I don't know if it's him or another turkey, but I'm like there's a long beard right there and it's over Seals.
Speaker 1:I'm looking over Seals' back now, so it's way right, and I kind of look at Seals' head looking back. Well, that's the same freaking turkey. He's just he's hooked on slight change in elevation. But there was a change in elevation and we're in the bottom. You know, a ridge in the bottom can be a molehill anywhere else. Right, and he was making his way. He made his way to that and it was. It ran the other way, kind of quartering away.
Speaker 1:Okay, I see what you're saying. So not good for the home team, because that don't come this way, that goes the other way and he's already. He came down to probably 30. Yeah, it's just where he came down was just enough to not for seals to not get over there. It's just. You know bigger things in the way right, yeah, some saplings or something on that side.
Speaker 1:Right, you have to pull your gun back and get on the other side kind of deal. And that's that's what I was talking about earlier. And I learned this the star. What I ain't saying like it's a mess up or something. I still do it every now and then we'll think halfway through the hunt I'm like, oh crap, I'm doing the. You know, I just limited myself, let me undo it and it's.
Speaker 1:You know, if you start with your and this is accidentally but start with your gun kind of in your lap almost, which is what I was doing to get out of his way right, had it pulled back, like this you can kind of come up wherever you know he might see you, but you do it fluently and you know, not abruptly or anything. He's going to sit there and snooze From the time his snooze gets, from where it's hanging to on top of his beak, to shooting. You know it ain't long. But he's got to figure out what you are first to know if he's scared, unless you just pop up you know, and just scare him immediately.
Speaker 1:Um, and this, he didn't even see that. I mean, I had to make him stop.
Speaker 1:But I kind of looked down and I was like there ain't no way, you know I kind of looked on the right side of him and kind of I think he was thinking the same, like I hope you got him because, yeah, we, we were done kind of deal. He and I don't know if he that he smelled the rat, I think he just the jig was up, you know we hadn't called in a long time in the and I don't think I really he couldn't see us, he couldn't see a turkey, he could see a long ways and he was like this would be left you know kind of deal.
Speaker 1:He was just heading out and it just happened to be he's the egg and we hoped he would have zagged when it came to time to leave. But it's what it is and I was able to come up, shot him and that gun that gun was loud. I've never in my life had my because we had that knoll right there, oh gosh. And I remember shooting going my jesus I might never hear again. And seals the same way. I was like I know that was loud on seals because this is over his butt, kind of yeah, um, not directly over like his head, but I'm, my gun is four feet above his feet, you know, facing way right of him.
Speaker 1:It wasn't like yeah, yeah anything but, um, you were right beside seals, yeah, yeah, but that gun. But you know, like when you shoot it hurts your left ear. It's kind of like goes that way almost and he's a little to my left, I know that, just rang his ears because he can't. He can't see me, he's just knowing like here's his click of safety.
Speaker 1:He's just like here we go, it's gonna go off, you know can't pick his hand up to block it right um, it's probably good I have where the turkey was. I think you know, if the turkey didn't see me raise up with a gun, he won't go see that but at the same time I had to cut and make him stop and it was.
Speaker 1:I mean, it was a good long beard and had some cool characteristics on his wing, feathers and stuff. He's actually he's in here somewhere. He's on one of them warbird mounts um, cool little wing. But but it was a good, uh good, a good old-fashioned swampy hunt that afternoon was. It's kind of a tale of two turkey hunts, one of them's pretty and they're jakes but, you know in-your-face gobbling and one of them's slick on you like that. But I would do a lot of things for either right about now. Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:For sure yeah made for getting ending to a long, hard day yes, um makes it worth it.
Speaker 1:You know, I don't know if it would have been as and I say as cool angle. I don't discriminate towards trackers that let me shoot them, but yeah it, had it been in the morning or whatever that. That has still been a fun hunt. But when you grind on them like that for a long time it's a little more reward right, which I mean I felt guilty for shooting, not so I'm like jeez man, like yeah, this whole, you know, out of eight hours, eight hours and 30 minutes was all set up for that.
Speaker 2:And then the just the last two minutes, it just went south. You know, that's just turkey hunting and that's why, if I'm carrying a camera, I'm carrying a gun too, because things like that happen. It does you know and vice versa you know. There's very few times that me and you hunt together. And you know either I'm playing cameraman or you're playing cameraman. Right that we don't both carry a gun, because you know we're, you know, in agreeance.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:To gun because you know we're, you know in agreeance, yeah, to like you know. Hey, you know opportunity arises, you're kind of which. We've always done that since we're kids. Like it's like all right, you kill one yesterday or last week or a month ago, you were last one kill one last year, you know, as dad was bringing us up, it was like all right, we're gonna take turns, you know you get a shot, I get a shot.
Speaker 1:You get a shot, I get a. I was a kid who had a sitting truck. When do you get to go out and drive?
Speaker 2:Hey, I sat in a truck, I know, yeah, got good at honking horns too, right.
Speaker 1:Jay starts honking horns whenever a truck gets close. Yeah, we're not competitive, don't worry.
Speaker 2:That was actually.
Speaker 1:Seals. If anybody is okay with it, seals is Seals is definitely okay with it yes, he's a good dude, good friend. He's not one to be mad about it, I promise you. Right right, some folks I do know, good friends, but when it comes down to saying no, I've got to shoot this one to the right.
Speaker 2:I could have maybe turned this gun around backwards and blindly shot that Right.
Speaker 1:You know I might be that way. I why did you? You know, kind of, you know, right, you know I might be that way, I don't know. I think I would be more upset and I know sales like this more upset. So you had a shot.
Speaker 2:And you just didn't take it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, kind of deal that's what I'm getting at too, yeah. But it was a good time, and I'm trying to think of anything else we did after that, because after that we wind up getting in the truck and going a little bit, some earlier season travels than what I'm used to, I think.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It wasn't a day or two after that and I was headed to Tennessee, maybe. No, we were headed to maybe Texas or something like that. We took a little wives trip or something where they got to shoot some. Then, no sooner than that, kentucky, tennessee, alabama, all that good stuff Somewhere in there, got another one Mississippi. I think I can't keep up with that. I thought I could, but I can't. I don't really know either.
Speaker 2:I didn't travel a ton this year. I know that. Yeah, because I got hung up in Mississippi, mississippi, and I wasn't leaving until I got right.
Speaker 1:I'm the same way. I've always been that way.
Speaker 2:It took me to the end of April to get right this year Right.
Speaker 1:And sometimes I'm making them not be me, this year probably. Yeah, I'm not a big fan. I like killing them in new places and new terrain and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:Right, me too, not a big fan of I like killing them in new places and new terrain and stuff like that. I like doing that when I can't hunt them at home, though you know it's hard to. You know, just go out there if you got a trip plan, that's one thing. Like that takes thing, we're playing right. Um, everything else was at 8 pm. Someone takes me gary, calls me like you go hunting morning my head just freaking, drove through tennessee.
Speaker 1:But yep, yeah, I do I'll see you in six hours yeah I'm getting about 3 am.
Speaker 2:Give me a few minutes.
Speaker 1:You know we'll just go from there and we do, and go shoot turkey and I drive back and worked out kids don't even know that. All I want to work, yeah, um, but but no, I, I don't. I'd much rather shoot a meteor than anywhere else I have a big place but About time to start freshening up on the calling and stuff like that, which I'm not a big. You're all going to laugh. I don't practice calling much. You're probably thinking we know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we know.
Speaker 1:Especially my alcohol, because I got this in my head a while back that I messed myself.
Speaker 2:I used to be really good at my alcohol, I will say this I've witnessed it. Yeah, and you do screw yourself up trying new things Because you get like all right, we're good. Let me try something I've never thought of before, that I heard one time man and then you mess up everything else and I can't undo it. Yeah, I'm blowing air differently.
Speaker 1:I'm like how was I blowing it, yeah, and now I can't get out of this, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I used to sound dang good on one, yeah.
Speaker 1:And I got to messing around with it, and here's where it comes from I grew up with a true double.
Speaker 2:Right which, if y'all don't know? I hope I'm not too old.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but for y'all to not know what that is, but I think they still make them. But it's a. I mean two individual frames stacked on top of one another, with like two reason each or something.
Speaker 2:No, heck, I ran a triple at one point. They make those. Yeah, I mean, it is like a, I mean a brick in your mouth?
Speaker 1:yeah, but that's how I learned how to call, so if I take one like a normal mouth call for years I put it in.
Speaker 1:I mean, I sound like you know if you went and pulled an eight-year-old out. I mean I sound like you know if you just went and pulled an eight-year-old out of the second grade yeah, you know english class and like, hey, try to call. Yeah, that's what I sounded like. They are so totally different. Long um. But being the time and age of you know, if I'm going to have a variety of mouth calls and better get used to it and figuring it out.
Speaker 1:And then I figured it out and then I got into that whole little phase like you're talking about like I'm gonna try something new today. Yeah, with this turkey at 75, let me see if I can blow from this area. Yeah, over this side, and it don't. How'd that sound? No, stop, go back. You were doing good you got him to 75 why'd you change?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, yeah that sounded like a jake getting hit by a car um that's why I just take this late call. If I can, yeah, and that's. That's something I had to learn the hard way. It was like if you ain't good at something, don't do it right, you can always just not.
Speaker 2:You can always just if you're only good at a box call leave the other calls at the home, just take it with you just bring a box, call.
Speaker 1:You'll get a lot more turkeys if you kill and that's try to do all three that's why I kind of dropped a lot of the weight the last few years yeah, you know, and yeah, there has been some instances.
Speaker 2:I'm sitting here and I'm like man, I wonder if I had that one random walmart call that I had in you know, 11th grade if he'd gobble at that right now right you know and I'm like what he probably, probably would you know.
Speaker 1:I kind of started thinking myself like he's.
Speaker 2:he spooked her. Yeah, I saw him running the other way.
Speaker 1:No, he's not going to gobble he gone, but anyway we're getting on an hour here. Yeah, we'll wrap it up, but next week I don't know what we're going to talk about next week. I had a little itinerary. I wanted to hit on through the month, but kind of preparations for NWTF when everybody's switches flip. Look forward to that. Look forward to shaking hands with a lot of y'all at the whatever annual NWTF convention in Nashville.
Speaker 1:Going to have a bigger booth this year, going to have a lot of stuff there, like I said, going to have these new combination copies of the books. Going to have a limited. It ain't limited, it's the first 100. It obviously ain't being made again. Everything after that is not going to be in the first 100. So if you want one of those, get there early on one of the days. I do believe that the show is from 9 am to 6 pm every day this year, all three days. Usually most trade shows and this one is usually like, a first day is 11 to 8, right, and then the second day is from 9 to 6. And then the third day is, you know, after church they do a service from 11 to 3 or something. Then we have loadout. You know there's a bunch of random hours.
Speaker 2:None of the three of the days. Is there anything on Sunday? Is it Thursday, friday, saturday? Yes, nothing on Sunday.
Speaker 1:They moved it completely last year too. There's nothing on Sunday. The convention and this is. I didn't know this until we were involved in it, but the convention is like a week long. Yeah, the sports show is technically what we the booths yeah, the trade show yeah that's the sports show. Yeah, but everybody just calls it the convention.
Speaker 2:The convention.
Speaker 1:If you go look online, the convention starts on like the 11th or something like that. If you go look online, the convention starts on the 11th or something like that, I don't know. And if you go up there and think you're going to be going to where all the booths and stuff are, they don't get there for two more days, right. We'll be there the 11th probably getting ready to set up and stuff hopping on some podcasts and stuff like that and making a week out of it.
Speaker 1:We'll see you all there. Hopefully y'all can make it and if not, we'll have uh, that should be one of them weeks where we put a lot of stuff out, you know, for y'all, for y'all to tune into, and then we'll try to keep on pumping these videos out for y'all. So appreciate y'all's feedback on them. Y'all let me know what you think and, um, maybe I can, if I'm able to, I'll fine tune them a little better according to some of these comments.
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