The Spring Legion Podcast
Welcome to a year-round discussion on the wild turkey and those who hunt them. Hosted by Hunter Farrior, founder of Spring Legion and author of Ballad of a Turkey Hunter, the weekly podcast is geared for all outdoor communities and dives deeper than the usual tactics and calling tips. Holding true to the brand, topics are built upon respecting the heritage and challenges of hunting, with a never-ending appreciation for all that the spring season provides. Enjoy insight from special guests like Dave Owens of Pinhoti Project, Cuz Strickland of Mossy Oak, our friends at NWTF and Muscadine Bloodline, and so many more widely known for their impact in the turkey hunting community, as well as the deer, duck, and waterfowl realm, who exhibit the obsession of which only a real turkey hunter may truly understand. Thanks for listening.
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Cold Weather Gobblers - Hunting New Turkeys in Unfamiliar Conditions
Ever wondered how a snowy Mississippi turns into the perfect backdrop for an unforgettable turkey hunt? Join us on a journey through time as we reminisce about those youthful days where snow in the Deep South wasn't just a rarity, but a thrilling challenge we were eager to tackle. Our adventure with turkey hunting in unusual weather conditions brings back memories of camaraderie with fellow hunters, like Jeremy and Lane, and the shared excitement of tracking turkeys while navigating a landscape that looked like a scene from a winter wonderland. We also celebrate a significant milestone with our podcast hitting the top 80 on Apple Podcasts—a big win for any turkey hunting enthusiast!
With Black Friday just behind us, we're swapping tales of the hunt of a different kind: the mad dash for those unbeatable deals. Who knew outdoor apparel could stir up so much adrenaline? Our stories paint a vivid picture of the excitement and chaos, with highlights like snagging Mossy Oak gear at jaw-dropping prices. As we look ahead, we’re eager to take a more interactive approach in the coming year, planning to weave listener questions and scenarios into the podcast fabric, making every episode a two-way street of fun and discovery.
Shifting gears back to the field, imagine the unexpected thrill of a turkey brawl unfolding just a few yards away, hidden in the shadows of towering trees. The twists and turns of such encounters are what make turkey hunting an endless adventure. Our tales are peppered with humor, debates over strategy, and the gentle hum of nature. With a noticeable increase in young turkeys, the future looks promising, signaling successful wildlife conservation efforts. As we close this chapter of the year, our excitement for spring hunting is palpable, and our gratitude for your unwavering support is immense. Join us as we toast to the adventures past and the many more to come.
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Speaker 2:Welcome back to another episode of the Spring Legion podcast. My name's Hunter Ferrier. I'm not a special guest host on today's episode. This is the usual. I just sound a little different. Chase is with me today, thank goodness, your voice is a little better. Mind, isn't it a little better?
Speaker 2:for sure, yeah, so chase is going to kind of be kind of the ringleader on today's episode. I'm not, um, on my deathbed, I lost my voice, so hadn't been there in about four days and this is honestly the best it sounded about four days and this is honestly the best it sounded since, uh, since around thanksgiving. So we, uh, we're back. We got second week of podcast here for you today and, uh, hopefully chase will be able to kind of fill in some of the storytelling gaps for you so you don't have to listen to me uh, wheeze through this uh microphone like this is honestly, I think this microphone is amping it a little more than it really is. So, uh, phone calls have been a very difficult, to say the least, over the past few days.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, I called you this morning and I could barely tell what you were trying to tell me or yesterday, I guess can't put, can't put the phone any closer, so I'm actually trying real hard to talk right now, right.
Speaker 3:It just comes with the weather right now.
Speaker 2:I guess, Sometimes it happens, yeah, and it happens about once a year, around this time every year for me and nothing. I did or got. That just goes away for six or seven days, and then I wake up and it's back. Yeah, where? Do we want to head with. It goes away for six or seven days, and then I wake up and it's back.
Speaker 3:Yeah, where do we want to head with this this morning? What are you thinking?
Speaker 2:First, I mean first couple things I wanted to mention. I know I'll cover an update or two kind of relating to last week's double episode of the podcast. I want to thank you all for listening to that. We actually charted at some point you know, as soon as it released, in the top 80 or something like that, I don't remember which was cool to see for the first time. I mean just seeing a turkey hunting podcast and Apple's top at least top 100. I don't know how high it wound up getting, but in the month of the last week of November, you know.
Speaker 2:So a lot of folks are thinking about turkeys. We're not crazy for sitting here thinking about them this time of year and got a lot of good feedback. Want to thank everybody for help spreading the word about the podcast being back and we did mention some giveaways that are going to be related to it. For some folks who lended us a hand in spreading that word I believe it might have been on the episode that we had with Seals, but I think it was. Three separate giveaways really is what we wound up coming up with. One was going to be for sharing the podcast to your story on social media and tagging us in it. And then another was for leaving a review on apple itunes podcast stuff, um, and then and then subscribing to our youtube because hopefully by the end of this month we'll have you know, a good, a good bit of hunting videos starting to roll out we're working on editing them right now.
Speaker 2:Um, or trying to edit them right now.
Speaker 3:Doing our best.
Speaker 2:I wanted to get those guys mentioned on the podcast. We said we would the IG story. He's going to get a free set of the new Gator 2s and Tercant Pant 2s, which, if y'all hadn't checked them out yet, I encourage you to. It's prelegioncom.
Speaker 2:we just uh, put, put a big old dent in the inventory over the past three days which we're recording. This on cyber monday and um so black friday, through cyber monday, we uh got a lot, of, a lot of uh labels printed off, yes, stacked up behind us right now. So we're about to get to filling all of those. And then before then we had the Gators and the Pants and the Mass released last week around this time last week. A lot of those are heading out and I encourage you all to check them out.
Speaker 2:They are pretty dang cool. I really like them, very fine-tuned in comparison to last year's gators and pants. Um. So folks who do have a pair of last year's, hey, you got them a new bottom land, so now we got them an original bottom land and green leaf. Yeah and the uh. The gators are in green leaf and the loading, um it's not the same load color. We tweaked it a hair. I mean you almost got to hold them side by side to notice it. But I like these a lot better.
Speaker 2:It's a lot more into kind of the same um kind of color tone as the the bottom land, you know, kind of greenish color, a little more earthy feel too right yeah, so I liked how those turned out and then, um, and then we also do have some some new bottom land ones as well, and the new ones in the new gators, but the pants are in original bottom land but uh, yep, pretty much, uh, last year's we're. We're getting it as good as we can get it, and then any tweaks and stuff we could do to it, like you know, a much stronger lace hook and um, and uh, you know, four times the same stitching you know, much more durable on the gator side.
Speaker 2:And then the pants wanted to have that abrasion resistant fabric to the uh the ankle for anybody who's not wearing gators, um, when they're wearing their pants, and um, yeah, so just a few fine, fine tune-ins on those, but but they've been a pretty big hit here.
Speaker 2:And the face mask I do love, obviously, and we might be getting the don't quote me on this but we might wind up getting that jacket everybody's been asking about in the next week or so. We weren't expecting that until January, but I'm not going to spill a lot of details on it until we for sure have it in here. But it's something y'all are going to like. But, with that being said, our buddy Blake Grindstaff 55, I think, is how you say it he's going to get him a free pair of gaiters and a free pair of pants as well. So, blake, if you are listening to this, shoot us a DM on Instagram or something like that and let us know that you want your sizes and address and stuff like that and we'll get those to you this week. That'll be easy because obviously he's got an Instagram account and can DM us and stuff like that. Obviously he's got an Instagram account and can DM us and stuff like that. As for the review, that's going to go to MPW1994. So, and I believe he, yeah, so he MPW1994, he left us a review on Apple. Apple podcast said man, I don't know these guys, but I feel like I do. It feels like I stood around a tailgate talking with them, love the podcast and I'm looking forward to a successful 2025 season. So I really appreciate that.
Speaker 2:Mpw1994. You're going to have to reach out to us because I don't. I'm pretty good at guessing but I can't guess those initials exactly and I'm not going to I don't know the correct database to sift through all the babies born 1994 and and coincide with those initials to uh, to connect them. Dots but um. But I appreciate the kind words and and it is great to hear um. That is really a very big compliment to say you know that. You feel like you know. It's because that's that's what you. You try to do in any type of media like this is to establish a relationship with folks who you haven't met face-to-face and I admire folks who are able to do that in other media platforms and stuff like that. You feel like you know them. That is the goal of everything you know when it comes to putting stuff out like this in an episodic form.
Speaker 2:So really appreciate those kind of words. Dude, if you will, you can DM us on any social media you know platform, obviously, or should I say an email to podcast at springlegioncom and just introduce yourself. We'll get everything squared away to get you a free pair of the new gators and the new pants. And then, um, that third one, and that's gonna go to a new youtube subscriber, and me and chase just sat here and tried to figure out how to tell who the subscribers are and we couldn't figure that out. So we're not just gonna nullify that whole giveaway, because we already promised a giveaway for YouTube, but one of them we think because he did comment about it, kind of on a recent post that we just uploaded.
Speaker 2:So it's going to go to Connor Swafford, s-w-a-f-f-o-r-d. So I don't know what his username was, but that's what his YouTube name was. So, connor, if you are listening to this, reach out in some form, and we're going to get you a free pair of pants and a free pair of gaiters as well, and we appreciate you recently subscribing to our YouTube channel and if you haven't, folks?
Speaker 2:if you all keep that up, those who share and follow and subscribe and stuff like that we're going to be doing these a little bit more at random. Probably not every week That'll be a lot, a lot of gators and pants, but we are going to go, you know, I don't know it'll be every month or something like that. We're going to kind of pick one at random. If we see a really good review or something that's very thought out or something like that of that nature, we'll honor that because that's a big help.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and it doesn't go unnoticed. In other words Right. We need to give credit where credit's due. Also, I believe. We appreciate them really and honestly.
Speaker 2:We don't just like it and move on. We read all of them, obviously, even the bad ones and make changes. Off of those, right. If you've got something to say, usually it's a benefit, right. But so congrats to those folks I know we've got. We had a lot of Black Friday because everybody sells all the prices. By the time y'all listen to this, it's going to be back to normal. So if you didn't get it, you didn't get it.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:All the discounts and stuff, but everything is going to be updated on the website. As far as inventory goes, some stuff ain't going to be there. That was there last week and we are going to have all this new stuff still on there and should have it hopefully, you know, through Christmas and up into 2025. But it's always good to grab it while you can, because we do have a lot of stuff running out of stock. Right, it's a good problem to have, but it is a problem, you know, when you start running out of stuff before you really want to, because this stuff takes a long time to get in. Stuff we worked on, you know, this time last year, right, but yep, so appreciate you all for the shout-outs. Just want to make sure we give you all y'all's free stuff. Y'all for, uh, for the shout outs, want to make sure we give you all y'all's free stuff. And um, did you? Um, we had a we had a lot of different.
Speaker 2:You know options. As far as you know sales and specials and stuff, I like I like black friday stuff. Oh yeah, um gets everybody kind of amped up and checking everywhere and doing stuff. I'm a I mean'm a consumer too of hunting goods. I love getting them, emails and stuff from different brands and stuff like that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Mossy Oak sent me one. It said something about 70% off, so I had to get on there and get a jacket or two. They had a polar fleece, I think is what they called it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, do I remember right? Yeah, the solid color ones, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, so I ended up snagging one of those. Yeah so they got a lot of stuff on sale for Cyber Monday, which I don't know if y'all still catch it when this podcast drops out or not, but I'll see you'll get a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2:I need to go check this. I got my wife a pair of sweatpants, like the bottom land sweatpants. Yeah, I wear them a pretty good bit I always get her the same size I wear. She can wear them a little baggy, you know.
Speaker 2:But, I got her some last year and I'm probably going to get me some, because actually I was in the store when I got them and I saw them and I thought I'd hit the jackpot. I didn't have a tag on them or something, like somebody done you know, left a pair of these, like one of the you know someone who, like works here, just kind of got a hold on it. I didn't know they were going to like actually sell them. I think they were selling them.
Speaker 2:But, I saw them I was like this is awesome and I got me a pair of those, or got her. Sorry, I need to go check because I have seen a bunch of ads from those. Once you click something, you'll see it about five more times, especially this week. They got them pixels and stuff figured out which I don't. I don't mind some folks speaking of her. She's one of those. She don't like her. You know the. When they target the ads to you and stuff, I'm like I get it.
Speaker 2:I mean, it is creepy At the same time like you're saving me a lot of time, Like you're kind of reminding me of stuff I did look at and didn't buy, Right? No, so I don't know.
Speaker 3:I mean that's, I agree with you there, because, like that's about the only way I do shop is through my. What I have on my coming through my emails, like hey this is on sale, or this is a new option, or whatever it may be.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because I just yeah, I don't. I'm not one to splurge a lot on myself, right, you know, except for when I can get a good deal on it or something like that I prefer. And so, yeah, the email chain messages that I get. Yeah, that's about the bread and the butter and I kind of like I'm one of the guys.
Speaker 2:I appreciate them letting me know them let me know because you know, if I don't if I'm pretty disciplined if I don't need it, if I don't want it and if I can't like make it myself, I ain't gonna buy it. I'm not gonna be tempted at all. But if it's something I was considering anyways and you kind of nudge me and say it's 20 off, I'm like I appreciate it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, forgot I needed that, yeah, um, but I also. I'm I'm tough to convince. I'm one of those. I got almost worn it for a whole year before I break down and buy it on a lot of things. But I do. My silk has a good sale. I'll get those and we got them.
Speaker 2:I like some emails. Some folks get on my nerves, but we try not to get on nobody's nerves when it comes to emails and stuff. If you get an email from us and you subscribe to the newsletters and stuff, we ain't going to send you one every week, right, probably, just when something happens, just trying to, you know, let folks know about something. But yeah, so today we are going to get into some. I guess, like I said last week, we're going to get into some storytelling in these first few episodes, kind of go over how the season went last year and stuff like that, and then, once the calendar turns its page into January, we'll start doing a little more interactive stuff, start answering questions and stuff like that, a little more scenario stuff and what will we do in this and that and how do we handle that and this and all that good stuff that will be weaved into some of these.
Speaker 2:But we've got some stories to tell and you know a lot of folks do enjoy the storytelling part aside side of things. So we're going to get into some of those and I was trying to think of a good one that Chase can tell so you don't have to listen to me like a robot over here the whole time and I forgot completely that Chase took a trip to New Mexico this year, did, and I forgot completely that Chase took a trip to New Mexico this year, did you not right?
Speaker 3:so dive into that a little bit, because I have not heard this at all. Yeah, so, um, you know, I pretty much turned down a lot of options this year as far as traveling went. Yeah, until just until I got even in Mississippi and I had one day left and finally connected on a bird here in Mississippi. So the next day, me and my buddy Jeremy which if y'all follow me on Instagram y'all have seen you know me and him hunt together a lot and me and him set out with another friend of ours, kind of a mutual friend of ours Casey, out to, I guess, north-ish New mexico. I really have no idea. We drove through the night and it was dark when we got there.
Speaker 2:We drove 26 hours straight wake up, you ain't pine trees, no more.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's pretty much how it went, um, but it was really cool going out there because I'd never, I've never been, you know, really west past texas, um. So we pull up first thing they tell us they're like get the truck, we got to go check cows. Well, you know, wake us up at. We roll in at 4 30 in the morning, they wake us up at five to go check on these cows because apparently they had a wolf attack a cow at some point, um, within the day or two before we got there that they had found out about.
Speaker 3:So they've never done that yeah I was like so we're going to check on wolves this is what I heard.
Speaker 1:I'm like all right.
Speaker 3:Don't know where I draw the line on this because as far as I'm aware, you can't do anything about it. Yeah, I think they're just there, which I don't understand. You know, I don't really know all those rules and regulations and whatnot, so it was pretty much just go see if any more got got. Yeah, so that kind of threw.
Speaker 3:An interesting curve to our whole four or five day trip was we were constantly on wolf duty of if we saw them in a certain area, we had to let the wolf people know about them so that they could try and locate them and do their science study or something on them. So if you ever have a sighting, apparently you call these people and they come out there and you know, decide whether they're a nuisance or a benefit of some sort. Don't quote me on any of this because I mean, I obviously don't live out there and this is just kind of what I picked up from hearing three conversations down. Yeah, you know, um, but it was really cool. Just, you know, kind of feeling like heck you never know when a wolf's gonna pop out on you, you know, and you're in a thicket.
Speaker 3:You're like, oh, lord, lord, here we go.
Speaker 2:You kind of learned that there were wolves in this area as you're learning this.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I didn't really know there was wolves out there. I thought they were more north than that. I don't know. I've never really thought about a wolf ever or a mountain lion or anything else like that, which we ended up talking to some guys that were mountain lion hunters and stuff and I got to telling stories at the you know little cafe or whatever and they were telling me some wild stories of you know having these big cats and all this stuff, but anyways, I'm sure that was good.
Speaker 3:A whole nother world, um. Yeah, you know it was pretty much day one, um, but what was really cool about it was I got to turkey hunt in the snow for three of the days, which it wasn't. It was really cool, um, I think the first day was clear. The last three days we hunted in the snow, which was totally different, as you could imagine. Um, don't know if you've ever gotten to do that.
Speaker 2:I have one time, actually, really, yep, me and Nick Mitchell, my good buddy growing up, went out to a place and we were about 14, and it was opening day. Might have been youth season, I don't know. I think you've got to have an adult with you to go youth hunting. So I'm going to say it was opening day because we didn't have an adult with us, but he and I and I don't think Seals was with us. Might have had someone else with us, I don't remember. But we went and we decided to camp out the night before and it snowed on us and all I remember is us freezing to death, and, and all I remember is us freezing to death. And he did shoot a turkey the next morning. Oh really, yep, we were just sitting out there in the snow.
Speaker 3:It didn't snow, it dusted kind of that was in Mississippi. Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 2:Mississippi and of course we were kind of younger. I mean, I'd killed turkeys, I knew how to turkey hunt, oh yeah. But we were, you know, daniel Boone and they're trying to find turkey tracks in the snow and you know, just having fun really and wind up. You know we were sitting on the ridge top and had to call him for a while. I don't know what we didn't have like phones or anything. I don't know what we were doing, just kind of hanging out by a tree, and he's on the other side of the ridge top. Top had a big opening. He was on the other side. I'm facing him. I think my legs were like hanging out in the ridge. You know the clearing Right. You know face mask off and everything bottled up in like deer hunting gear and I see his eyes get real big. He just starts raising his gun.
Speaker 2:I'm like, what are you doing? Yeah, because I can't see. And he just, and some three turkeys walked. I was able to get my head turned around and see him like yeah, yeah, yeah that's what we're here for.
Speaker 3:You know, shoot it.
Speaker 2:We wound up at work. Yeah, Just got lucky.
Speaker 3:I guess I forgot all about that Sure did I kind of do remember. Yeah, you tell me that story.
Speaker 2:I think the snow had melted by the time we shot the turkey. I mean it really wasn't much, but I can say I did it again.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I guess so Not probably what you got to deal with, Right? Yeah, I mean we were trudging through, you know, over your ankles, which got to put the dang gators to work out there Really and honestly, kind of. What you know some of the others are designed for is the cold weather. I was, like you know, heck, I'm set.
Speaker 2:Yeah, ours is just a shell of what a lot of other other ones have, like you know, multi-layers and stuff like that for snow and rock and stuff like that. I was like I'm like ours is just outside the waterproof and shell, pretty much without the extra stuff right, which I mean.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean I was over my ankles in kicking. You know I was kicking up snow and it's weird snow out there to. It's probably normal for everybody, that's hitting for. Mississippi. It's like Dippin' Dots, what, yeah, never would have guessed. Huh, at least that time of year it was. I don't know.
Speaker 2:I mean I've always heard the snow out there is different than what we get. Yeah, Snow cone kind of like.
Speaker 3:Right, shaved ice. Right, pretty much ice real quick, right so it. That was the weirdest part I was just I kept telling the you know the guys we were with and whatnot I was like this ain't right, like something's messed up here, like this is not snow. You know, this is a different type of snow, yeah, and which of course, they were. Like that's how it always is you know?
Speaker 3:shut up yeah pretty much like like I don't know, it just looks tasty, right, but it was really cool just trucking around and that stuff and they acted normal.
Speaker 3:The turkeys were on you know they did right a lot of times, which you know that was a whole other ball game. You'd be in a big, you'd get on the same side of a mountain with them and then you'd pretty much say, fly down, and I mean those turkeys can cover some ground, unlike I'd ever seen. Yeah, I've heard they haul tail and and you can see them and they can see you for a mile at almost, because it wasn't greened up yet, because it was still snowing obviously so you know if you're on one side of a mountain and he gobbles on the other.
Speaker 3:I mean you got to pull some houdini tricks to try and get on his same side of the mountain it ain't like Mississippi.
Speaker 2:If it wasn't snow, it's still a whole new world right.
Speaker 3:So which Jeremy ended up killing one and another guy that met us up there, one of Casey's friends, who I'm now friends with, lane. He killed one in the snow and I still didn't get the full story on it. I mean, I don't really know how it all happened, but I think one did it right and all that stuff.
Speaker 3:They were very excited about it, um, because he was from florida, so like it's all you know it was a whole another ball game for him too, just as much as me and um anyways. So like it was a good learning curve for me and jeremy, because we had never hunted turkeys together. We deer hunted and duck hunted a lot together, yeah. So it was kind of like our time to get to know how each other turkey hunt, because he's a good turkey hunter he kills several every year, you know, and he's a successful turkey hunter and seems to you know kind of think a lot of the same ways we do.
Speaker 3:Right. So I was like this is a good thing for us to get to try this together and get to know each other, turkey hunts and learn something from each other. Well, we had seen some birds in a valley I guess you could call it that's what they called it, it's just between two mountains.
Speaker 1:It had a little stream in it or something, and it's just a little flat, a low flat.
Speaker 3:Well, we saw some birds in there the day before, you know, at a distance or whatever. It was right at time to go up to roost or getting close to it. So we knew they probably weren't going to be too far. We just had to kind of guess if they were on the left side or the right side and we guessed, you know, I think the right side. I guess you know, I think the right side.
Speaker 3:So we hike like two and a half miles up side hill on this huge mountain that I've never seen before. You know anything like it type of mountains, because I've, you know, always hunted southeast and midwest a little bit and stuff like that, and it's a whole new ballgame. In other words, an actual mountain, an actual, real mountain, not a Mississippi mountain as we've joked about before. So we side-heeled this big mountain for a long ways and finally, you know, no, we don't need to say a word you know we need to get to this certain area first. There's a little bench that you know. Just, we had seen it a day or two before and I just walked through there and I said this is a turkey spot yeah 100 like this just looks good.
Speaker 3:And you know, kind of had it in the back of my mind. I'm like if we can get there before they do, yeah, we should be good try to get in front of them and get in front of them. Yeah, I just have a feeling they're coming here at some point through the day. So so we, we, you know, I actually found an elk shed on the walk in. That was really cool, Big six by um elk shed, um, which was kind of like my one, like goal out there I was like.
Speaker 2:I was like I almost want to find a elk shed Right More than kill it, which is more than kill a turkey, which is and I can not want to butt in the story, but I relate to that because I do that the same thing if I go like I never, until it was last year, I never seen a morel mushroom. I looked everywhere in mississippi thinking that they were down here and I, like I know scott sherman found one in, like, uh, knoxville county or something like that one time or I don't remember where he was at.
Speaker 2:And I know another buddy found one up around hernando or something, but I didn't know they weren't really native. You know common things down here. So I'm kind of like, do I just suck at it? I'm thinking like, do I not know the scale to how big they are?
Speaker 2:they like micro and I just think they're way bigger than they are. Am I just looking at all these flies? Am I just too focused on turkeys? But not. Then I found out no more ales kind of grow in different part of the country. That's why you haven't found them Right. But I remember I was in, like the Dakotas or North Nebraska or I don't remember, minnesota maybe I don't remember, but I was up there and I'm like I can stop one now you know I'm good this is all I wanted to do for my for 20 something years was find a morel mushroom.
Speaker 2:And I did like then, when I go up there every time, like I want to find like a buckeye tree, yeah, and like find some buckeyes maybe I still hadn't really gotten good at that and then find a uh, a morel. If I can, i'm'm good you know I can take this back without a turkey, and all these miles have not been wasted.
Speaker 3:Right, it's a heck of a participation trophy kind of thing, you know, and that's how I saw it, right Ended up hanging it up in my little barn, and I'll honestly be a little more disappointed by not finding those and killing the turkeys.
Speaker 2:Like I'm up here to kill a turkey. I kind of expect to kill a turkey at some point. You know I'm trying to do that, but then like not coming up on, like I don't remember that, until I'm like Kentucky on the way back, like driving, I'm like, damn, come on, I didn't.
Speaker 3:I didn't really look, yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 2:I gotta wait a whole year to do it again, right?
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Speaker 3:that's actually quiet, you can check out their entire line of leafy suits today at northmountaingearcom. Yeah, I mean all right, so back into it. Pretty much we get to that area that I wanted to get in yeah pretty close and, uh, I think at some point like it had gotten a little daylight it took us a lot longer to get in there than we wanted to and whatnot and I think I looked in the.
Speaker 3:if I remember right, we looked in the valley and saw a little glimpse of a fan, you know, in a cedar tree or whatever Christmas tree, whatever they have out there, and I'm like they're right on the edge of the valley. This is going to work out perfect. We just got to stay high and loop around them, whatever it may be, and and loop around them whatever it may be and, uh, squeeze down in there, get where we want to get, which I had the camera and stuff too.
Speaker 3:Me and jeremy are still kind of filling each other out. This is the first or second day we've hunted together. You know we're trying to kind of discuss what we're doing and explain each other. Well, I let out one call and right there, 70 yards from us, just off the edge of that little flat, so I'm like perfect, we got the high ground on them. You know, never hunted out here, but in past experience in other places, this is a good place to be, you know. Just assume my best guess, this is where you'd want to be. So right after they gobbled, though, about seven more turkeys gobbled past us, kind of where we just came from, which ended up being eight jakes which came up there and began to brawl.
Speaker 2:Oh really.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, full-blown brawl with these two longbeards. That's cool. About 45 yards from us, behind a wad of trees, we couldn't see any bit of it, but like if we were one tree over, we could have watched all of it. Which A we could have killed the longbeard right there, it would have been a fight for long.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we could have broke that one up real quick, but it was kind of comical and I don't know. Jeremy will tell you I was being very comical at the time because, um, and this is no, no, hit on jeremy, it was just a funny thing really and honestly, but um you know they get down there fighting bird you know gobbling, I mean I work.
Speaker 3:We can hear all their, all their feathers hitting each other and you know we're just like this cool just to listen to. You know, we you know kind of morning success at that point either way. But I remembered um a lot of times hunting rios. Where we hunted rios there was always a bunch of jakes, and that was an occasional thing. That happened pretty often um an occasional thing.
Speaker 2:No, no, you know what I mean. That rarely, always happened, that rarely. 99 percent of time, 60 percent of time it works every time.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, pretty much what you just said. That's exactly what I meant, um anyway.
Speaker 3:So you know they fight and whatnot, and the long they stopped gobbling at me they gobbled four or five times at me. Good, what I'm assuming was longbeards. At the time I was pretty confident it was longbeards because of seeing them the day before we knew there was two down there and it was two turkeys gobbling pretty much in the same area. So we're like, yep, those jakes come over here, whoop up on them, try and take it from them. Well, we hear Jeremy claims it's a hen walking up the mountain and I'm just like man, that just doesn't sound like a hen. That sounds like a jake caulking.
Speaker 3:You know, there's like a yelp, yelp, caulk, you know it's got a little jake caulk, a caulk, a cak to it. Yeah, I'm like so me and him start going at it. He's like that. Those hands are pulling them long beards away from the jakes, I'm like no, no, no, no, no, hang on, and you know, and that's no shot at him at all you know we we laugh about this a lot because I was like I'm sitting right here, he's like we need to get up the mount.
Speaker 3:You know we need to start get try to get back in front of him and I'm like no, and argued him down and we went back and forth for seven or eight minutes probably like, not mad at each other.
Speaker 3:Just this is my reason and this is his reason, and this is my reason and this is his reason. Yeah, and I finally cut the camera off because this is probably some not good quality entertainment here and I looked at him. I said, hey, I'm not moving until I eat this granola bar. And he said, well, all right then, just like not winning here. So we pull our mask down, start rigging around in our pockets, digging around in our pockets looking for uh, digging around in our pockets, looking for a snack of some sort. And I got a little road behind me comes up and he's got a little path comes up in front of him and he was over there, you know, rustling around whatnot, and I just had found my granola bar, whatever it was I was eating on snack, opened it up, took one bite and turned and looked the direction away from jeremy yeah just kind of making sure nothing slips up behind us.
Speaker 3:And soon as I look away and I'm like what in the world? I thought. I thought the worst, because he's digging around and everything and his guns laying in his lap. Last I see him scared me to death, you know he didn't say nothing.
Speaker 3:Hey, you know, and I'm like man, I don't know, I'm scared to turn around right now, you know a little bit like concerned of what I'm about to look up on and I turned around and there's a long beard flopping at 10 yards and I'm like and he goes, shoot the other one I can't see the other one, what other one, what other one? Yeah, other what? And so I do pull up and clean, miss this joker because I'm trying the camera's off everything.
Speaker 3:I'm trying to cut it all I'm trying to, to, I mean, just went to a little hand basket. No, hey, turkey. Right here no nothing but in his defense.
Speaker 2:I'll say I guess he doesn't know you're not looking.
Speaker 3:I guess he thought I was looking and at 10 steps, he really didn't have an option but to pull up and shoot real quick. Yeah, he didn't have much Because apparently, and he looked up and that turkey saw him instantly oh, I'm sure I mean it literally might have been less than 10 steps.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 3:It was right there. So the other one, you know, wasn't hanging out long and I ended up missing him.
Speaker 2:Almost don't count as a miss Right.
Speaker 3:It was around a tree. You know, I couldn't swing as far as him. That's why he was set up on my right was because I kind of had behind us into the left the second you're like I'm not gonna shoot.
Speaker 3:He stops at 30 and looks at you like well I wish I had him on my shoulder right now, right, right. So he got him one. You know it was. He was tickled to death and I was glad to be a part of it either either way, but it was kind of one of those like you did this, we wouldn't have been eating this granola bar.
Speaker 2:Yeah, somebody owes you a oh yeah, thanks for that granola bar. Yeah, or was there ever a told you kind of deal?
Speaker 3:There was a told you so kind of moment between me and him while we were sitting there waiting.
Speaker 2:Because it was so cold. We had bundled up incredibly like to hunt mississippi, yeah, in the cold because is it as cold there in the snow?
Speaker 3:it's not feels like normal. Yeah, so like halfway down the walking down through that mountain or whatever it may have been um, yeah, we're hot, I mean we're sweating oh yeah we're, we're, we are prepared. Wrongly, yeah, um, I've done that. So, yeah, which I didn't have my vest on. He had a vest on, so he ended up getting the bird, because those birds out there are heavy, yeah, like really heavy, and we had a two and a half mile walk back to our vehicle and it ain't flat.
Speaker 3:So we ended up stripping down to our long johns pretty much and throwing everything in his vest and I. I toted out about 70 pounds of just both of our clothes and his vest and all that, and he toted out the turkey and the camera or something another. You know our guns or whatever it may have been. But you know, about halfway through that walk I was like you know, I'm kind of glad we sat there for a few minutes.
Speaker 3:He was like, yeah, you know what you were kind of, you were on to something. I'm like all right, that's all I need you know. And it was never any hard feelings of any kind towards each other, of like I freaking told you, man, you know it was never any bad words of anything, it was bad words of anything.
Speaker 3:It was just he had an opinion and I had opinion and it was kind of funny that you know it. It kind of worked out in potentially my favor, you know, and could could have not been easily not happened that way and it's just it went back to some um hunting texas yeah you know that's, that's how those that are texas least did if they got their butt whooped by a bunch of jakes, they ain't gonna keep gobbling because they're gonna keep gobbling those jakes.
Speaker 3:So if you don't know that you you ever have some jakes come in there and you can tell that they kind of get quiet. Yeah, the best thing you can do is not move right and just call a little sparing, more sparingly, but continue to keep the interest in your spot, right, don't try to follow them, don't try to move, and you know that took a lot of years of learning, yep, just because the majority of the places I hunted growing up didn't always have a lot of jakes, right?
Speaker 2:You know. So whenever we did get a place that had a bunch of jakes and started running into that more and more, you know that was kind of one of the things, a common thing I saw um pretty regular, which um that's? Um, I will say I think it's probably the same place you're talking about um having a lot of jakes. But one of the few times I've probably called my shot, kind of like I watched this moment I was, I was probably in college, probably 19 or something like that. You and Brett were still in high school, middle school stuff like that, and I was just starting to figure out actual turkey hunting kind of a little bit. I mean, everybody kind of has those phases where you kill three and you know everything.
Speaker 2:You know you done, figured it out. And then you kind of get humbled and realize you don't really have it figured out. You got them figured out but, um, put in a new situation, you know, and then a lot um. What I like about turkey hunting is that it is kind of a concept, what, what works you know in in. Uh, new mexico is going to obviously be different than mississippi, because they went on the mountains went on snow, literally different subspecies of turkey and all that stuff.
Speaker 2:You know I mean I think a lot of folks have kind of determined that Miriams and stuff they spend kind of year-round flocked up Right, whereas everything is a lot more split up down in the southeast. So they are actually very familiar with their crew of turkeys, hens and gobblers and jakes and stuff like that. So when you come in there with a different call or something, it's not like oh, there's a lonely hen over here. That's weird, because there's usually 47 hens. I'm looking at 46, and I'm the 47th.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:That means 48. Why has that not been here?
Speaker 1:this whole time.
Speaker 2:You know. So it's kind of an odd. You're almost odd, you know from the get-go.
Speaker 3:But I mean mirrors gobble, nonstop kind of deal also, which I mean yeah, they gobble good in that snow and stuff. Yeah, it's normal to them, Right? I think it's more as of like they're just trying to be heard, you know, because they're it's just.
Speaker 2:I think that's just literally in their DNA. I mean, it's just what they do more. It's just so much you know bigger terrain.
Speaker 3:I mean it's probably pretty easy to get separated and lost.
Speaker 1:Yeah it does make a little sense. Or a mountain lion gets you, or a wolf gets you, or whatever in the world, you know a lot more predators and stuff out there, but I was but like I think you and brett had gone back to the castles in texas.
Speaker 2:Um, maybe the last time I hunted texas. I got older and went back. But um, I went out like in this we were dealing with a bunch of jakes. We knew there were longbeards in the area, we called them and then if jakes were around they would come to the call and then, like that long beard would hang up, gobble once twice, and jakes twice, and Jake's would kind of walk off and then you'd hear that long beard no more.
Speaker 2:And you'd assume they ran him off, beat him up, something like that, and I think it was about 2 pm, and y'all were like, oh, we'll get us another something, I'm like.
Speaker 3:I'm out of here to go to Turkey.
Speaker 2:You know y'all can if you want to. We're trying Day two. I'm like I'm going to tell you how to do this.
Speaker 2:I kind of went out at like 2 o'clock and I went and picked just a random tree kind of, and I got down low to where they could get up high and see. But it was in a spot where if they got up high and saw nothing, it wasn't an odd situation. They'd still have to walk down. And I went and sat and called a couple times and I just sat and it it was. I don't think it was windy really. Um, and I was actually kind of hunting the lower part. That's where they would usually kind of gravitate to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all turkeys did um, there's a creek down there, something I don't remember. I saw about 200 yards from there and I faced that way and I called a couple times and, you know, hung it up and just sat for that's probably 15, 20 minutes or something like that, and I'm sitting, hung it up and just sat for that's probably 15, 20 minutes or something like that, and I'm sitting there and it was still probably the most shook up I've ever been with turkey, gobbling, like I did not expect a turkey to gobble or something like that, but I didn't expect one to be like on like a cliff behind me and gobbling down right over me, like threw it down, and it like ricocheted on rocks right by me and I you know, I didn't know it was there and it was real, you know, kind of jump scare.
Speaker 2:You know, wasn't I expecting that? And the long beard came walking down right there. I mean he waited until he was on, you know pretty much standing where I should have been standing when. I called and then gobble one time and he wasn't going to sit there and just you know wait for more jakes to come up there.
Speaker 2:He gobbled one time like all right, where you at, real quick. And then he just I mean he wound up walking. I mean kind of it was really really pretty. Actually he walked down, took him felt like a lifetime to walk down all this rock and stuff. He's walking on top of rock and stuff, like that. He, he wasn't going to sit on that pedestal too long because he knew what was coming, but as soon as he got down on that bottom with me I shot him. But it was kind of like they're not going to gobble a lot.
Speaker 2:He didn't ask me to wait over there and then come in. You know he walked in there silently. The only reason he gobbled was like what the heck Right where the? Heck are you? I should see you. I've been up there where he was standing and you can see a long way.
Speaker 2:Like you should see that hen you know, but, granted, there's a lot of different terrain stuff that could have been blocking it. So we gobbled one time to see if she would respond or move or something like that. And he was coming down. He wasn't going to stay there long, but a lot of times if you've got the best problem to have is a Jake problem to have because you don't have a good year next year, oh yeah, and we've dealt with it and we're going to deal with it this year.
Speaker 1:I've seen more.
Speaker 2:Jakes around here than I have in my whole life. Oh yeah, same here. I mean I've never which. I mean we don't have an awesome sample to go off of just a few acres.
Speaker 3:I mean just driving around and stuff. Yeah, Like I off of just a few acres, but I mean just driving around and stuff. Yeah, I've seen a lot of jenny's and jake bolts I mean like from this year that'll end up being little flocks 20 to 30, though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've seen that out west and stuff, but I'm never. I mean I'll see three or four right and I get pumped at three. You know, usually if we see some jakes period, I'm like hey, we did something right. You know, we killed enough coons we have some um, but this year I'm talking like we're seeing, you know, just being around the deer camp area that you shot that deer at. I'm talking like you know, they might just be passing through one day.
Speaker 2:I don't know if they're gonna be there you know, tomorrow or in spring, but when I see, whether it be on the side of the road or hunting or deer hunting or something like that, when, when I see I'm talking over 25 kind of groups, that's new to me, yeah, and I've been, you know, paying attention to this for a while, right, so that's going to be a good problem to have. Next, year.
Speaker 3:I think, yeah, I think not next season, but the next, is that right?
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, there'll be jakes in March be jakes in march.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then last year's jakes.
Speaker 2:I mean it was kind of a usual normal. You know three, four, yeah, group of jakes. But I'm saying you know, look like whole clutches hatches, you know kind of deal, which is really cool.
Speaker 2:Um, so, that's, that's awesome. So, and I think, um, you know the the narrative of hey, this is resource. You know we're seeing the benefits of that. You know folks actually giving a crap about next year and the next year and the next year, you know, and future generations folks are, you know, trapping more and doing a little more habitat stuff and learning about the number one thing you can do to help turkey populations learn about turkey populations, you know.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:Because not everybody's got the means to trap on and to burn and stuff like that. Um, we can't burn our place, we can't really touch anything, honestly, habitat wise. But we can trap and you know, kind of when we're done trapping, it's that's all of them for a while. You know, we just got to give it a break and some more we'll move in, coon wise, but just a little drop in the bucket it feels like. Which is that's really in reality, probably all it is is dropping the bucket, but, um, at least it's a drop sometimes. But you know, really, really, truly, you mean weather, you know, you know divine nature is a big is a big plus.
Speaker 2:When you got a good spring and and a good weather, spring and stuff like that, and there's plenty of food, you know, easily accessed food, that's a you know. You bank it on the good Lord more than probably any act of man when it comes to you know how good of a hatch. You know, in my mind I'm no biologist, you know, but I'm more thankful for good weather when it comes to a lot of poults than I am. For you know one little, you know, just because I trapped, I don't think I made there be 17 poles instead of two.
Speaker 1:I think a lot of it's just, you know, divine nature and the good Lord's blessing of good weather too.
Speaker 3:Right right, there's something I didn't tell you earlier today. I saw seven quail yesterday.
Speaker 2:Seven quail.
Speaker 3:Which was in North Mississippi, a little place we deer hunt, but we've been over the last year we've been working on that place a lot Wild quail Seven or eight wild quail came through which we've been, you know, trying to get it right to try and hold some turkeys on it, if we can. You know that's kind of the only management tactics I've ever learned, you know. So yeah, it's a deer and duck hunting area mainly. But you know we we saw a hen on camera last spring and we were like, well, let's, you know really put in some time and effort here and see if we can just get some holding up here.
Speaker 3:I mean, I don't think I could shoot one out there, because it's yeah, some places you just don't Few, and far between out there kind of thing, but seeing those wild quail was just like a pat on the back of the work we've been putting in or whoever's been putting in.
Speaker 3:Me and Jeremy work a lot on that place and we don't have a tractor, so we do have a guy that kind of comes and helps with that Team effort, right, but we try to help mark the areas and whatnot that we would think you know, hey, this will do this, this will do this. And so when we told the landowner guy about the quail. He was like this is paying off. You know that was his ticket of saying like this is working good man.
Speaker 3:You know, like y' all kind of are on something we were just kind of like luck of the draw is how we felt about it. Like well, that's pretty cool to see, you know, but it was kind of a paying off, you know. It felt like some of the work we're doing is paying off.
Speaker 2:Have you seen Wild Quilt yeah?
Speaker 3:It definitely is in my mind. Where in the world do they come from, if there's like, if they're so few and far between you know as they are, I'm just how do they just appear Like I think? It's, you know, it's a land tactic thing, you know. But like they aren't big as a turkey, I just don't think they would travel through all this stuff that surrounds us for miles and miles and miles. That's not good habitat. And then all of a sudden they like I mean, how do they find the good habitat?
Speaker 2:you know, I mean, I think, yeah, I'm understanding that, but I think a lot of it is kind of the same with the turkey situation. I think they're ground nested birds they are they are, aren't they yeah? They don't fly much at all yeah, and they don't fly high.
Speaker 3:I mean they're not migratory of any kind.
Speaker 2:I think they're, and this is really just my understanding of what a biologist says, sometimes on some podcasts I heard, or book or read, you know. Is that you know they just kind of share quail. I'm talking about share the same type of habitat, you know benefits. They get the same type of habitat. You know benefits. They get the same benefit as a lot of turkey does from the same habitat procedures, and you know what's good for turkeys is good for quail right, but I think there's all obviously some variables there, like why is there turkeys here, not quail and stuff like that?
Speaker 2:I think you know height of vegetation and stuff like that. There's a lot to do with it and yeah, it's, you know.
Speaker 3:Accessibility to I mean, I would not predator kind of stuff yeah, yeah, I get holding them, but I'm just like where are the seven? You know, yeah, but where did they come from?
Speaker 2:They're there, it's just very few.
Speaker 3:I guess they, yeah, had been close by or there and just ended up over there.
Speaker 2:I mean it's kind of like a black coyote. They're everywhere sparingly, but you don't see them often, you know. Imagine that you know A black coyote. They're everywhere sparingly, but you don't see them often, you know. Imagine that you know black coyotes. Just the black ones needed something and you started, you know, doing whatever they needed to help survive. You'd start seeing them more. You know they'd have the same amount of young and as long as 90%, don't you know, as long as their hatchability ain't .5 or whatever it is.
Speaker 2:You know it bumps up to six. You're gonna start seeing them more and more in two or three years and then you'll see more and more.
Speaker 3:And I was just kind of curious, if you know, maybe somebody could have turned these out at some point, or if there was, you saw like a covey of them oh yeah, seven or eight, I mean I mean, I mean, there could have been you know, I just don't know how they show up out of the square miles around us. Is not turkey hunting I mean quail habitat at all, and we just have a small?
Speaker 2:Someone listening is like no, I've been running an outfit next door with a bunch of pin quail. Right, that's the ones you saw.
Speaker 3:And that's kind of a question Is that something that they're doing?
Speaker 1:No, or anybody doing that you can't do that?
Speaker 2:I don't know. Their immune system is different. Okay, by, not From pen, right, right.
Speaker 3:Versus which? I know that from turkeys, I just didn't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of. It was kind of interesting to think about Dr Gary, his father-in-law. Oh yeah, yeah, mr Chet, he's really cool. We go down and quail hunt with him every year down Poplarville Mississippi.
Speaker 1:And he does that stuff.
Speaker 2:I mean he knows a lot about the biology. I mean there's like a lot of things. It's like me and Seals used to farm chickens and stuff. The difference in a farm and, and like I say, a wild chicken or like compared to wild turkeys and stuff is way different. You know what they're born immune to and how all that works is way different.
Speaker 2:You know, if you turned out a bunch of, it would introduce diseases that most wild animals have built an immunity to, but not that good of immunity to or some some or another, like, like they don't have, like the right waxing on their feathers, naturally because they don't get rained on every 34 days so they don't build that, you know bodily function and stuff like that. It's kind of like if, like my, my Chesapeake bear trooper cheyenne like stopped giving her a bath and she started getting like she used to shed like crazy. It was always drying, so it was because I was getting her bath and like she didn't develop that you know that kind of oil that a dog needs to repel water you know, um, when I kept her inside a lot of, my wife would give her a bath.
Speaker 2:You know, let her or she'd jump in a pool or something with chlorine or something and it'd kind of wash it off and finally her body stopped making the oil that you need, or something like that I don't know.
Speaker 2:Some vets listening to this are going to laugh. That's not wise. Isn't that going to food? You fed her or something? Yeah, that was my take on it, but. But I stopped giving her a bath and it's pretty greasy now. I don't know if it's oil or dirt, but it repels water pretty good again. Yeah, it ain't from going to get ducks or none of that, that's for sure. Because you got to hit them to get them, you know? Yeah, I ain't going to drag her through that.
Speaker 2:But I ain't got many duck hunt stories or deer hunting stories. I ain't been deer hunting since the deer activity I got was going to find years earlier. On the 2nd of October, which seems like last week, that was a two months ago tomorrow yeah, two months today today, yeah, two months ago today, yeah so which I had some cool interaction over the weekend. Yeah, you got to see some.
Speaker 3:Starting to rut and whatnot. Yeah, I decided to go leave my camera by a tree that I'll sit in mine, slip up and just look down the lane. Real quick, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Ten minutes before dark and I got about 18 yards from my camera, which I was sitting on the ground and I hear ch and I'm, like gosh, right where I wanted one to come. I'd seen a small buck, a little six-point, come through there earlier in the day and sure enough, a nice buck, he was just a three-year-old pops out. I watch him make a rub scrape the whole nine yards was really cool watching. And he's only about 50 yards from me. That's awesome. And I'm just squatted in the middle of a field Just like I am in a pinch, and so he finally sees me and knows he doesn't like something. But these deer are very unpressured up there, so he just kind of hopped off. One time in the edge of the woods, I grunted at him. One time he snort, wheezed back at me that's cool and would not leave.
Speaker 3:I finally, like my leg, I got I've got a 24 minute video on my phone of him and that was after, like I realized you know was clear to get my phone out of my pocket. I probably watched him for 10 minutes before that on that without the phone and my camera's cut off over there by a tree or whatever.
Speaker 3:So it would have been cool footage, but is what it is? Um, and he ended up not being a shooter up for up there. You know I'm all for shooting smaller deer sometimes, but they make me just as happy. I'm not wanting to trophy hunt, but up there I tried to shoot four year olds only or four, four year olds are better, only that's all I take out if it a full fan and a long beard.
Speaker 2:That's all it takes. Yeah, I don't care if it's a 16-inch beard and two-inch purrs.
Speaker 2:Or if it's a two-year-old with a nine-inch beard and Quarter-inch purrs. Yep the gobble, you know, mature bird, mature bird, right, I'm going to stick to turkey hunting, but no, I'm going to, actually, I'll say this. I'm going to, actually, I'll say this. I got a Kansas deer tag. Yeah, I don't know why or how, but I got one, right, and we're thinking about going this week this is a firearm tag and I think that's this upcoming week maybe going out to Kansas, and I mean you talk about clown show. Probably it's trying to shoot deer out there with some folks who know what they're doing. Like we were saying in the beginning, something like that would be cool to see. I almost wouldn't even really care to take a gun, like if it's short enough, cold. I'm like no, we'll just sit in the truck with the deer and drive back, you know, like just to see big deer moving around and stuff. I don't even know when the rut is.
Speaker 3:I'm sure it's over, and just see what places we only see in the spring look like in the winter.
Speaker 2:You know, just go to a couple places we've been to in the spring and see what it looks like in the winter and, um, I've never seen, like I said like I've never seen snow like what could be out there. I think it is supposed to snow somewhere later this week, maybe or early or something, but I don't know. I'm looking at this stack of labels. We got like we got to get like a storage facility thing.
Speaker 2:Now and then we got to transfer all our inventory to. We're about to go kind of do all that and I, just while you're telling that story, I was looking. We just had several, several boxes dropped off that you're about to help me stack, so lovely ups guy is probably pretty mad at me because I usually I'm usually out there to help him and he probably rang the doorbell a couple times like well yeah, dude, you know kind of you about to make me do this, so we've got to go unclutter whatever.
Speaker 2:I'm sure he just dumped them.
Speaker 1:But maybe he's stacking them for us. I doubt it.
Speaker 2:We're about to go do that. That's all I think of. Yeah, y'all check them out. Y'all help with this inventory that we've got a lot of.
Speaker 2:We're about to take it and try this old new method of fulfillment out in the storage facility. So we're going to get to work. We're going to get a lot of orders sent out. Y'all be sure to check out springreligioncom for all this new stuff on the new Gator 2s, the new pants, the new mask and potentially next week, pretty cool Jack. I'll give all the details on it next week. But again, congratulations to our winners on the giveaway stuff three of them. Y'all reach out to us and then we'll be kind of doing some more of those.
Speaker 2:You know, pretty randomly and sparingly throughout the remainder of the podcast season, but I'm looking forward to the weeks to come. We are in now December, so that means only one more month until it's 2025, and then spring 2025. And so that's my mindset is, you know, it's kind of you're really drawing, you know kind of stretching to look at the positives. You know three more months and we're halfway there kind of deal, but it really is going to be, honestly, less than that. So, again, appreciate you all listening to the Spring Legion podcast. We'll see you next week.
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